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TikTok faces a U.S. shutdown by Jan. 19 unless the Supreme Court delays or blocks a law requiring its Chinese parent, ByteDance, to divest.

The Biden administration defends the law as a national security measure, citing potential risks of Chinese government influence. Content creators argue it violates free speech.

Donald Trump, once a supporter of the ban, seeks a delay to reach a "political resolution."

A shutdown could cost TikTok millions of users and revenue. The court’s decision, due soon, could reshape U.S. digital speech policy.

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 75 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Stricter laws restricting data collection would actually solve the problem but that will hurt the American propaganda machine just as much. China will diffuse it's propaganda through our own social media like they clearly already do. They can literally buy the data from our own data brokers, it won't even stop them from being effective.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 28 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It's not simply about collecting data. That's only part of the problem.

Why do people keep repeating this like it's the only thing.

Tiktok controls the algorithm controlling which clips get shown. Combined with the data, this means they can propaganda individuals so hard it will make your head spin.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

this means they can propaganda individuals so hard it will make your head spin.

Until you have an open source algorithm then any organization controlling a social media site can push propaganda. Just like they do here in the US.

The reason that Tiktok is being banned has nothing to do with data. We know this because you can just buy data about Americans legally from data brokers. This isn't about Chinese propaganda either. The real reason is that Tiktok is not easily put on a leash by the federal government. The real reason is that Tiktok has a large amount of popular leftist and anti-establishment voices. The real reason is that the US wants to funnel people into the social media sites that jump when the government tells them to.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Not leftist; pro-China. There's some pretty clear indications that TikTok suppresses posts critical of China and China's interests--despite those topics generating high engagement--while not suppressing information, say, critical of the US. They're clearly acting as an agent of the Chinese gov't.

[–] Ok_imagination@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah! Only Facebook can propagandize my sweet ass!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

This is not an argument against banning TikTok. This is an argument for banning Facebook (and all other centralized social media) right along with it.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

No shit. Who cares about TikTok?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Being consistent is considered a good thing. Ban one, ban none.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, Chinese leadership was complaining about the mass migration from Twitter to Bluesky because it rendered their bit accounts useless, so it's not like it's a secret or anything.

This has always been about how TikTok can't be bought out as a propaganda machine by American billionaires.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 17 hours ago

"It's to protect our citizens from China!"

"Are we going to have stronger data protection laws across all 50 states and the federal government to help protect our citizens?"

"That sounds like a terrorist wanting privacy to hide form Facebook and Google's data to the NSA!"