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Aww ... poor little ISPs.

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[–] Album@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's not really about eating the costs of doing business. A restaurant doesn't charge you $1 at the end of your bill for washing your fork, it's just part of the cost of serving the dish and so your Salmon Rice dish is $18 not $17.

The point is that the listed prices for services should either have these fees be built right into the price...as pretty much all businesses do...or if you're going to put it at the end of the bill then it needs to be clearly defined per FCC.

It's a transparency problem. Not only is your $60 cell phone bill not actually $60 but then they also don't tell you about the additional fees very well when they tack them on at the end. It's gotta be one or the other, not neither.

[–] wklink@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Restaurants also don't have a line item on their bill to make you pay for their anti-unionization efforts. ISPs, on the other hand, do often have a "regulatory recovery fee," the purpose of which is to pay their lobbyists to fight regulators so they can continue to screw you.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Why does everyone try to prove everyone else wrong? That entire first paragraph is completely unnecessary. You can simply add to a discussion without being "well actually " about some detail you want to nitpick. The other two paragraphs are spot on.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Because it's a meaningful distinction. The issue isn't them passing the cost to their customers. It's them lying about their prices instead of telling you what they're going to charge you.

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Not trying to prove you or anyone else wrong... that's a really odd and unnecessarily defensive take.

It's just a discussion.

[–] cheer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really one of the worst things brought over from reddit

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like to imagine people doing that in an every day conversation. It's ridiculous. No one would ever talk to them lol

[–] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like a friendly enough response was given to your comment and you automatically assumed they were only interested in saying you're wrong.

Having a discussion is not "proving everyone wrong"

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Fingerthief@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

Gotcha, you don't like discussions. Noted.

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

An increasing number of restaurants are pulling exactly this sort of bullshit--little 3.5% fees at the bottom of the total check disclosed only in fine print on the menu (if at all) tied to COVID, paying their staff, processing credit cards, etc. It needs to end. Pricing should be upfront so customers can compare what they're actually paying, not snuck in at the end.