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[–] Teppic@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As a European I'll never cease to find it mind blowing that it is normal for a Americans that the cost to them of damn near everything is more than the cost initially shown to them.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re completely right to feel that way. As an American, it’s mind blowing to me, too. I really don’t like the fact that “hidden fees” have become normal.

[–] upstream@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Traveling in the US it can often feel like everyone wants to scam you or take advantage of you if you don’t pay attention.

Heck, even store prices and restaurant prices aren’t the real price.

Store prices are without sales tax/VAT, and restaurants wants you to tip 20% so they can keep not paying their “employees”.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The tax drives me crazy. The excuse for not displaying the total price after tax is because it's different for each state. ...yet the cash register seems to be able to handle that perfectly fine. So it can't that hard to figure it out.

Edit: after a quick look into it, the main problem is tax in a lot of places is based on the Total amount sold, not on each item. So that could definitely be impossible to display before hand.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

after a quick look into it, the main problem is tax in a lot of places is based on the Total amount sold, not on each item.

I'm actually confused, aren't taxes a percentage? The sum of a percentage of all items should be the same as a percentage of the sum, no? Or is my brain not do math good? Can someone smarter than me explain?

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Say you list a table lamp on your website at $100, tax included. Well, if you sell that table lamp to a buyer in Connecticut (where the tax rate is a flat 6.35%) then you’re required to remit $6.35 in sales tax to the state of Connecticut on that transaction.

But if you sell the same table lamp to a buyer in Aberdeen, Washington, where the sales tax rate is 9.08%, then you’d be required to remit $9.08 in sales tax to the state of Washington.

As you can see, you are cutting into your profit margin by including tax in your pricing.

Further, US customers are accustomed to paying their local sales tax rates. We’re so accustomed to paying odd amounts in sales tax that paying a flat rate might surprise us or leave us a little confused.

This is anti-consumer bullshit nonsense. All they did was hid their only real "con" behind a wall of text. "As you can see, you are cutting into your profit margin by including sales tax"

And the last paragraph is fucking stupid too. People are too used to seeing numbers, so other numbers will confuse them!

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It's actually only a few things. The vast majority of the goods we purchase are clearly priced. Most states (and some local jurisdictions like big cities) do have sales tax applied to purchases of non-essential goods, but those rates are generally much lower than the national sales taxes in most European countries.

[–] Teppic@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sales tax is the most obvious example of adding to the cost I've been shown, but it's everything. Here if there is a price on something that is the price you pay. Period.
If I have €5 and the price on the shelf is €4.90 we are all good, and I don't even need to know what country I'm in!

But is is more than that, if I take my car in to be fixed, they have to agree every cost they want to charge me in advance at no point can anything cost me more than I expected and agreed to up front.
Airline tickets, theatre tickets, hospital bills, TV ads, you name it, the price they state or advertise is what I pay, no ifs-no buts.

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about having a sales tax applied to some or all goods or about how much that'd be. It's about not listing the final price including the tax right until you're supposed to pay for it. How dumb is that?

[–] tim-clark@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I love oregon, no sales tax so the listed price is the price. Now all these idiots moved here and are making changes as to why this place was nice. Like trying to implement a sales tax and getting rid of the urban growth boundary

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I'm seeing it more and more. Little "processing fees" here and there, some tied to COVID, some tied to credit cards. There needs to be a clap-back against this behavior.

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's actually almost everything unless you live in one of the 4 States without sales tax.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's government mandated. We have variable sales taxes on every product. And it isn't included in the 'price'.

[–] dark_stang@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Stores can show out the door pricing of most products, they just won't. It's fairly common in the cannabis space because they don't want to make change.