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[–] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 165 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Boots up gaming PC

Windows: "YOU IN DANGER ZONE! NEED WINDOWS 11! BUY NEW PC U SCRUB!!!111"

Load up Steam

Steam: "Hey, I see MS are being assholes - click here to install SteamOS instead"

Reboot PC

Millions of people never run windows again

I'm dreaming but that would be amazing. That would make this the year of the Linux desktop. C'mon GabeN, make it happen!

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you sure you don't want to create a microsoft ID? Microsoft believes that you should only trust them with all of your data and credentials. They promise they won't hand over your information to the government unless the government serves them a subpoena or has an agreement to access the data that is lawful or they detect something they have been asked to report.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

Well you wouldn't mind the government just checking unless you're a criminal.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago

You forgot the endless pages of trick questions you have to periodically step through to get into Windows. One wrong move and you owe Microsoft money every month.

[–] ZoeyBear@beehaw.org 3 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

If Linux had better nvidia support I would swap in a heart beat.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I have been running OpenSUSE with nVidia for 7 years. No issues here.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

AMD's RT performance is getting quite close to Nvidia. Each generation gets them closer and closer.

CUDA will always be proprietary but there's a ton of resources being put against alternative solutions.

[–] ximtor@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Using Pop for almost 2 years on nvidia laptop and pc, no problem, whats the issue?

...Ok no problem is a lie, but it wasn't GPU related problems..

[–] ZoeyBear@beehaw.org 1 points 32 minutes ago

I had issues with my specific hardware combo of i9 14900k and 4090 and multi display issues that windows doesn’t seem to have. Though that could just be my ignorance.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 29 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Things which are holding this back

  • Collaboration with OEMs to provide SteamOS OTTB (Lenovo is an exception)
  • Nvidia support. Most gamers use Nvidia GPU unfortunately
  • Certain industry-standard software which don't have a Linux port. PSA: Most people don't want to learn alt software. Johnny Mainstream is scared of new softwares. This cannot be changed
  • End-users suffer from choice paralysis and Linux offers endless choice. Maybe SteamOS can help.

What we know so far, SteamOS won't be a general purpose OS, so it might not support every random piece of h/w.

We might not have the year of the Linux Desktop, but we can expect 2025-2026 to be the year of the Linux handheld.

SRC: Linux fanboy for the last decade

[–] spongeborgcubepants@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Nvidia works flawlessly in my system, didn't have to tweak anything.

[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does anybody remember Wubi? It was Linux that was installed on Windows just like a regular program. Gave you an option to choose Linux on boot. It didn't make any partitions, and if you didn't want it anymore? Then you'd go to Windows and uninstall like any other program. It had a few limitations but was an interesting concept.

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I remember Wubi! That was 20-ish years ago now. It kind of got made irrelevant by VM's I guess. I wonder if it's still around.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

VMs are still slow unless you're talking linux on linux with KVM

Wubi was great because you got native speed to test Linux with, which was probably better than Windows for at least most versions of Windows.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There's WSL now in Windows 11 - a built-in, pretty performant instance of Linux. The recent versions run a proper Linux kernel I believe (the older ones were more of a compatibility layer over Windows APIs). I'm not sure what the limitations of WSL are. But there is already some kind of Linux in Windows. I use it for the odd utility and to avoid having to learn PowerShell.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

There is. Wubi was more about giving 14 year old me the confidence to try out an entirely different os.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

Of course! It's what got me started!

I love it as a concept, and frankly a dual boot installer (create partitions) that worked from Windows would be pretty useful I think. USB/disk installs add complexity that just hurt the chances.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would be a massive headache because you'd have to make it work on any hardware. And if you bork your users' PCs you're in for a really bad time. It would be much better to come up with a new Steam machine.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

i mean… any hardware is kinda just a matter of time imo

linux already works with more hardware than windows does, and often more reliably - not some of the complex stuff required for gaming of course, but again… matter of time. it’s not important until it’s important and then it really kicks off

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Big old citation needed there.

Supports more hardware... But not gaming hardware... And not industrial hardware which is often windows only.. But def more...

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"It erased pictures of my nana, Im going to sue Gabe Newell!" Windows users 🙄🙄

(I am that user)