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Fucking hell

CW: kiwifarms, death, suicide, harassment

https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/110978280642849045

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe work on dismantling those?

That‘s what they‘ve been doing for years, decades even. Just because it hit the „right“ website this time doesn’t mean this particular net neutrality violation should be ignored. On the contrary, it would be hypocritical for them to argue for net neutrality for years and then be like „oh well, those KF people suck so this time we‘re fine with it“. And why does it matter if anyone is suing? Is net neutrality only for those who have the motivation and/or means to sue?

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a big difference between explicitly endorsing something and not making a blog post about it. Hell there's even a big difference between making a better blog post about this and this nonsense they put up. As I just stated in a reply to someone else right above you, despite all the issues the link in this post addresses, my other issue with the EFF post is how tone deaf it is.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the reactions to their article actually demonstrate very well why this blog post needed to be made. If we‘re willing to immediately give up on net neutrality because in this case it would have benefited a bad actor, we might as well not argue for net neutrality at all. Pointing this out is important and I don‘t think it‘s tone deaf.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At what point did I say or even imply that we should give up on net neutrality?

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I‘m not saying you did, but many people in the linked thread do so by endorsing the actions of the ISP. And in my opinion, those reactions demonstrate why this article is not pointless or tone deaf. Because many people just don’t realise that net neutrality with exceptions doesn‘t exist.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ideas don't have to exist in absolution. Many people oppose murder, but are also okay with murdering convicted criminals. It's also possible to believe in laws yet allow them to be violated when a system isn't perfect. One can believe in net neutrality and wish deeply for it, but also recognize that it does not currently exist and to be okay with (or even endorse) people using the system to disenfranchise bad actors because they believe it is the best solution currently available.

[–] MasterBuilder@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By this logic, any untrained citizen who interrupts a robbery by shooting the robber in the head from behind should not only be absolved of the crime but should be lauded for it.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

lol, absolutely lmao

I'm really struggling how to see this is a good faith interpretation of what I said