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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Because we've passed peak agricultural land. The land committed to growing crops and pasture used for grazing livestock has peaked. The global population, however, continues to increase. There are methods for maximizing yields from farm land, and we haven't exhausted those, but there's only so much food that can be produced on a hectare of land. We also have to deal with top soil depletion, the risks of monoculture, the effects climate change could have on crop yields, and many other problems.

Edit: I think I need to clarify a few things...

I want to be clear: I am not saying we have reached peak food production. I don't believe that has happened yet, though I think that could happen soon. I'm saying, we've reached peak agricultural land.

There are ways that we can increase the amount of food produced on the same amount of land, which would allow food production to increase even if the total amount of land committed to agriculture stays the same. However, increasing crop yields might require things like using expensive fertilizers, which increase production costs that get passed on to the consumer.

There are other ways to increase food production using the same amount of land, like converting animal pasture land to crop land. But, this would make meat, especially beef, much more expensive (since we would be producing a lot less of it). This could be a good thing, however, since a plant based diet is healthier and much better for the environment. Still, people are probably going to be upset about the price of meat going up.

Capitalism, naturally, also plays a huge role. Many producers are motivated to produce food that will yield the highest possible profits. This, however, does not necessarily maximize efficiency. Land used for raising cattle for instance, produces less calories per hectare than crop land. But people like beef, and they're willing to pay for it, so it's profitable for the beef producers, even so much that some might convert crop land to pasture land, thus further reducing efficiency (in calories produced per hectare).

If we had a different system, we could prioritize efficiency, which would help manage costs. However, even under a different system, we would still have to deal with the fact that land is a finite resource. Even under a maximally efficient food production and distribution system, there would be a limit to how much food we could produce. That being said, it is unequivocally true that such a system would be able to feed many more people than the current one.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What you say is true in theory, and might matter in the future but I doubt it, and it openly ignores the data on monopolies and price gouging happening right now.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 5 days ago

It is a dilatory tactic. Economists are used by the regime a lot like this.

They get these whores on teevee to explain to pedons why the fuckening is warranted and necessary. Nobody at fault, nothing we can do.

CNBC is notorious for this tactic. Corpos pay then good money for these segments too.

I am not big on speech regulation but industry funded propaganda should be labeled properly. These parasites and their trade groups operating in shadows while avg person doesn't connect the dots. These corpos are bad faith actors but they are given benefit of a doubt as if they are an individual.

It is a legal fiction created to opresss working people

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes nothing to do with price gouging, nothing to with with inefficiency in distribution.

Also, it is not like US is self sufficient in food production with a solid chunk of worlds most productive farm land.

This theory smells of peak oil that was shilled price gouge hydrocarbon. Some truth but it has nothing to do with the current food market conditions.

This propaganda is just priming pedons to to accept the price gouging to owner class.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes nothing to do with price gouging, nothing to with with inefficiency in distribution.

These are probably factors as well.

Also, it is not like US is self sufficient in food production with a solid chunk of worlds most productive farm land.

The food market is global. Food produced in the US is sold all over the world. Population is growing in the US and it's growing globally.

This theory smells of peak oil that was shilled price gouge hydrocarbon.

Peak oil production is also a real phenomenon, and peak oil production is inevitable because oil is a finite resource, just like agricultural land. I don't know when peak oil production would be reached, but there's reason to believe peak agricultural land has been reached, as evidenced by the graph I linked to.