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The Fairphone 5 released, is the sleekest repairable phone yet (www.androidpolice.com)
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Two years after the Fairphone 4 and following the release of some audio products like the Fairbuds XL, the Dutch company is back with a new repairable phone: the Fairphone 5. It looks and feels a lot like the Fairphone 4, but it adds choice upgrades across the board, making it the most modular and also most modern-looking repairable phone from the company yet.

The design is largely unchanged compared to the Fairphone 4, but the improvements that the company did make go a long way: The teardrop notch and the LCD screen is finally gone, with an ordinary punch-hole selfie and an OLED taking its place. Otherwise, you’re looking at an aluminum frame, a triangular camera array, and a removable back cover. Here, the company brought back its signature translucent back cover next to two black and blue variants. The dimensions and weight has been reduced ever-so-slightly compared to the predecessor.

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[–] rah@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Qualcomm QCM6490

No good for free software OSes then :-(

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you elaborate on why? Like, I'm not surprised, I just am not involved in this space enough to know why.

[–] ceuk@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proprietary drivers/firmware. Basically makes it impossible/very hard to develop custom ROMs/operating systems (the lack of openness makes it super hard to extend/modify/verify the software running on these chips).

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The drivers are well separated via HAL so you can absolutely make custom ROMs/OSes without changing those. The Android OS has way more code above the HAL layer than below. You can't however arbitrarily update the Linux kernel, modify the drivers or fix security issues found, beyond the security support window provided by Qualcomm.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

you can absolutely make custom ROMs/OSes

You can't however arbitrarily update the Linux kernel

So you can't make free software OSes.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  1. Manufacturers (e.g., Qualcomm, Samsung) won't return your call unless you buy in huge quantities, hundreds of thousands or millions of units.
  2. Lack of documentation.
  3. Information restricted by NDA.
  4. Non-free binaries required for lots of hardware.
  5. Generally lording over the market and exploiting their position, to the degree of anti-competitiveness, and as a consequence artificially extending the rein of non-free software in the mobile domain.
  6. Astonishingly poor quality of engineering.
[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Are there any better alternatives? The only ones I'm aware of off the top of my head would be Samsung's Exynos, Kirin, and MediaTek. From the little experience I have in the space it always struck me as Qualcomm being the least shitty option, not necessarily the best.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the best open blob SoC available?

[–] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

open blob SoC

What do you mean?

[–] TomViolence@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would be a good phone for free software OSes?

[–] rah@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are no good phones due to the way the SoC and modem manufacturers work. The best phones, like the PinePhone or PinePhone Pro, are simply the least bad.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I am so new to this so bear with me. There is Lineage OS for fairphone 4 - does this mean there won't be FOSS ROMs available for the fairphone 5?

[–] metaphortune@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, Murena is going to be shipping a version of this with /e/ OS on it. https://mastodon.social/@murena/110978277374459512

[–] rah@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

e OS isn't a free software OS.