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"But tires"

Ban all vehicles over 5000lbs to start without a specialized license and extremely heavy fees to have them. EVs are dropping in weight daily, ICE vehicles have been increasing in weight to dodge policies. One is a means to an end, the other is a means to profit.

Profit for few vs humanity's existance.. which should we choose?

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately my work is 52ish miles away. So with charge times on a standard 110 I'm stuck in the need a bit more category. I figure at 250 miles id be able to charge it on a 110 and if I ever have other trips to make it wouldn't be an issue. But with your policy of matching EV to ice productlines I imagine most manufacturers wouldn't want to intentionally sabotage a product they are already having to make, so I'm sure they would make something that fit people stuck in long driving situations like mine.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Remember: I'm not eliminating cars over 5000 pounds, because there is plenty of actual need for large vehicles.

When I talk about a 100 mile range, you need to be thinking about the battery pack needed for a 15-passenger van, or a 1-ton pickup. Manufacturers don't currently produce EVs in those classes. If they want to keep producing large gasoline and diesel vehicles like these, they need to add a 100-mile EV version at the same price point.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

True, Not sure if the eSprinter has seating options, but I assume that would be the closest thing right now to your 15 seater if so. But I've never known anyone who needed to seat 15 people that wasn't for an event that would be associated with a company anyways. So the company or rental agency would just register the vehicle paying additional taxes on it to compensate for the "extra" wear and tear on roads and tires.

The weight thing is tough. But you don't need a 1 ton pickup for much anymore, hell the electic mini pulled the space shuttle years ago. So towing/torque isn't the issue. It's just for putting things in the bed, which most trucks I see are jacked up higher than anyone is lifting a fridge into, or washer/dryer. No one wants to stack cement or soil bags in those things. My point was to disinsentivize vehicles that cause more harm but are just being used for fun.

An example may be farm tax. We already have farm tags as well for vehicles. So what's to say you don't make trade exceptions for registration fees. Work on a farm and get a farm tag, it's exempt? Add a constructuon site one.

I know someone who got a new truck recently. They said they get 14 miles a gallon. They tore their rotator cuff a few years back and have a bad back. Had issues driving his lawn mower around due to the steering wheel. So there is 0 objects that he can lift into the bed of the truck that wouldn't fit in any other vehicle. It weighs a shit ton without being an EV and is tall enough that it guarantees that any pedestrian hit would be dead on impact.

A car that gets 45 mpg would be so much better for us long term. Let them scream I'll never get an electric car as much as they want, but at least it reduces their CO2 emissions to a third and burn through less tires and roads.

Helps give the rest of the population time to get ready for the future