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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“Not all countries have the same values and legal system that we have in Canada. As a result, it is important for you to be informed about the legal framework and social customs governing sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression and sex characteristics in your destination country,” that page notes.

Wow, way to understate that. I suppose they have to downplay it though because if they were honest about the state of the US then they'd have to acknowledge that large swaths of the US can no longer be considered even remotely safe for members of the LGBT community. As such, they would have to consider the possibility that of members of the LGBT community might seek asylum in Canada and if so, that they could no longer turn them away on the basis that the US is a safe harbor (iirc many countries ban US citizens from seeking asylum because the US is supposed to be a "safe country").

Edit: Canada likes to claim that LGBT people from the US and UK can achieve refugee status, however the US-Canada Safe Third Country agreement says otherwise. Note that while there are exceptions to the agreement, none of them involve people who are members of the LGBT and/or BIPOC communities. In fact, it sounds like, based on the canada.ca link, that Canada recently expanded it to make it harder for people to claim refugee status if they're coming from the US, which is kinda the opposite of what they should be doing.

[–] Roundcat@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a chance that me and my sister might be fleeing to Canada if the situation gets bad enough even in the safer parts of the US, but even then, I know Canada has its own growing problems with fascism, and I'm looking into backup plans if things get bad enough there as well.

At the end of the day though, we may just run out of places we can run to.

[–] Hyperi0n@lemmy.film 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fascists in Canada are just a vocal minority.

[–] Roundcat@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A minority, but they are loud and have influence. I still remember the convoy that shut down the country for weeks.

[–] Hyperi0n@lemmy.film 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Convoy terrorized a city for weeks. Maybe shut down certain aspects of that city. The rest of Canada was largely unaffected.

[–] Roundcat@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It still was a scary situation to me, and reminded me a lot of the Jan 6 insurrection. It wasn't just Ottawa either that was terrorized though. There were smaller convoys that terrorized towns in Alberta, and there were several border crossings that were blocked by truckers.

Canada may be a more tolerant place than America, but it still faces a lot of the same vulnerabilities that we face here from being overtaken by a militant minority.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Same. Tbh I fully expect that if I tried however, they'd just turn me back and cite the legal agreement that basically states that Americans can't be refugees.