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Democrats eye Harris 2028 presidential run as they devise political comeback
(www.theguardian.com)
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While Bernie certainly didn't win the primary, I would argue he was slightly more progressive and yet got farther than Harris. Please reconsider your position on that. I don't think the DNC did her any favors, but they certainly aren't what kept Harris from winning.
I’m saying that’s why she lost then. She was in a field of better progressives as well as the status quo rep.
She lost because she was progressive, but at the same time you're saying she lost because she wasn't actually progressive enough.
I didn’t say "more" I said, "better."
After you said she lost because she was progressive, and in the same comment where you say there were better progressives, implying if she had been more progressive she would have won.
If not please try explain.
Here you go:
She was never very progressive, which made her less appealing in an open primary like 2020 (to actual voters) than other options like Sanders
She was still too progressive for the DNC to back her, until Biden dropped and they were left with the prospect of a snap primary they couldn't exercise control over, at which point they backed Harris running with a platform that was significantly less progressive than her 2020 primary platform
After Biden dropped out, if she had been more progressive, more voters would have backed her, but if she was more progressive the DNC would never have backed her. You need both the voters and the party to back a candidate for them to win. The DNC refusing to move leftwards towards voters is why they've lost 2/3 of the previous elections.
Yet her being a progressive was not what lost her the 2020 primary, contrary to this person's original point. You just expounded on my point, thanks. At no point did she lose something because she was too progressive.
This ^ is what tacosanonymous said. I'm not sure where you are getting "lost something because she was too progressive" from that.
Because she was neither.
The dnc was always going to push Biden liked they pushed Clinton.
She also didn’t win progressives bc there were better ones.
I’m done clarifying. Have a good day.
I understood what you were saying 🤷
You didn't clarify anything, especially not the incorrect point you were trying to make. I hope you have a more enlightened day.