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EDIT: The only reason why I still had it at this point was because I could use it with other apps. However, now that my Spotify Subscription is cancelled, it doesn't work with anything. It's mildly infuriating because today, I can't still use it with other apps like I was able to yesterday.

Please don't make the same mistake I made. No one should buy this.

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[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 179 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I cancelled my paid Spotify account because I can't get them to stop fucking recommending Joe Rogan to me.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm moments away from canceling. Splash screens of some bullshit podcast or something I don't want to see. Getting fed up.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] sol87@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Search for Github SpotDL And Navidrome

No need to sail them seas, but maybe still use a vpn, just on case. Fun fact i heard from a friend of a friend: Youtube starts rate limiting after 50,000 audio-only video downloads, until you have a new IP.

[–] yaaaaayPancakes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am skeptical of the quality of audio on YouTube. And of full album tracks running together properly.

Am I wrong?

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I've also noticed that sometimes it downloads the wrong versions of songs. While my Spotify playlist has the album version of a song, it might sometimes download a live performance audio or a reprise version.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It's free. You're getting "free" quality. Actual quality anything costs money or requires theft.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have hundreds upon hundreds of songs in my Spotify music library. Downloading them one by one sounds like hell. And then I wouldn't be discovering new music either.

[–] _pete_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If you want to move them elsewhere(or even just get a csv export of them) there are apps for that.

https://freeyourmusic.com will let you pay a one time fee to do it to as many services as you want, it’s a bit slow but it’ll get there eventually.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Renting music sounds like hell to me. If the songs can't exist as files on my computer (Opus, Ogg, MP3, etc.) then I'm out.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

ive donated to slsk. I like the song radio and album radio features of spotify, found one of my favorite bands that way

[–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

leave em sail the seas or tidal for the same price you get better audio so win win in my book either way

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

plus you're supporting jigga

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Allegedly, YouTube Music is about to shove podcasts in our faces with a soon to come update.

I'm leaving YTM if they do that. I'll go back to ☠️⚓⛵ and using locally available music.

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have an android, just download blackplayer and use a YT link to mp3 site to get whatever music you want.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've been pretty happy with YouTube music. I got legacied in due to Google Music shutting down and thought I would hate it, but I've had zero complaints. Plus, it comes with free YouTube Premium, so I haven't seen an ad in years.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have so many complaints, Google Play music was fine. It did exactly what I wanted it to.

YouTube music is like an alien looked at that app, and tried to recreate it exclusively by smashing it's forehead against a keyboard until an app that started most of the time came out.

[–] zourn@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would actually argue that Google Play Music was the best music streaming app that I've used. It was great being able to upload music from CDs of small local bands and have it right in there with the other streaming music.

Just today I had a hankering to listen to a specific song through my android auto, and instead of just being able to verbally ask the unit for that song, or even being able to search through the atrocity that is the YouTube Music interface on my head unit, I had to pull over, pull out my phone, search for the band, then click the uploads tab (because uploaded music does not show with the regular search results) and then click the song to get it to play.

[–] Lethtor@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

It's not optimal, and I would like for uploaded music to just show up in the regular search, but there is a top navigation bar where you can just switch between where to search (uploads being one of the options). Also YTM has the upside of showing YouTube uploads as well, I could always find obscure bonus EPs that only came with the physical CD because someone uploaded it, which is really handy

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

It's definitely not Google play music, but I treat it a bit like Pandora twenty years ago and it's ok for that.

[–] waterbogan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

YouTube music is like an alien looked at that app, and tried to recreate it exclusively by smashing it’s forehead against a keyboard until an app that started most of the time came out.

You think they that much care and attention into the app?

But seriously, yeah, I had pretty much the same experience -Google Play Music just worked beautifully, whereas YouTube Music was a steaming turd on Android. I gave up after six months and two phones and went to Deezer, never looked back

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I'm still pissed ytm no longer allowed me to view playlist songs like it would in gpm

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say the same myself. They don't do the worst job for music discovery either which is important to me. Amazon Music drove me nuts constantly recommending Cage the Elephant and other well-known (profitable) artists instead of obscure music similar to my tastes.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

The algorithm on YT music is vastly superior to Spotify for new discoveries

Oh, you used to listen to Metallica back in the day?

YT music - Here, you'd probably like Shaka Ponk, Gin Wigmore and Royal Blood

Spotify - hAvE YoU hEarD of A bANd cAllEd KiSs?

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Same. Honestly, I expected YTM to make things worse. That's usually how those kinda things go. But it actually did get better for me. I jumped to Google Play Music because it had better selection than Spotify (at least back then). YTM kept that, but fixed the issues I was having with the desktop browser player sometimes getting stuck. And the more recent support for lyrics that are synced to the music is great.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Their queueing system sucks. All I want to do is queue up some songs but instead YTM fills my queue with tons of crap I've never listened to before because that's how they make money. They put my manually queued songs at the END of the queue so I have to move them up 20+ spaces. There's literally no way to do it other than creating a custom playlist every time I listen to music, and they intentionally made that take more clicks/taps than queuing. I don't get how people are ok with the YTM app, it's terrible.

I hate YTM and I hate that I can't cancel it because they bundle it with YouTube premium, which my partner uses every day. Screw Google and they anti-consumer manipulative bs.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their queueing system sucks. All I want to do is queue up some songs but instead YTM fills my queue with tons of crap I’ve never listened to before because that’s how they make money. They put my manually queued songs at the END of the queue so I have to move them up 20+ spaces. There’s literally no way to do it other than creating a custom playlist every time I listen to music, and they intentionally made that take more clicks/taps than queuing. I don’t get how people are ok with the YTM app, it’s terrible.

wrong.

  1. you can disable automatic queuing by hitting the 'auto-play' switch in UP NEXT
  2. you can queue songs by long-pressing and hitting 'play next' (which will put it in front of the queue) or 'add to queue' (which will put it in my the end
[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, I'm not wrong. Option 1 does not exist on my phone. There is no switch.

And the "play next" feature also sucks. I don't want to "play next". I want to build a queue like literally any other music app and that isn't what "play next" does.

Edit: I don't see that "auto-play" switch on the web app in Safari either.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

yes you are, it must be there unless you're using an obsolete release of the app. Below is a screenshot how it looks like

yes, you can build a queue by "adding to queue".

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I finally figured it out. this is how that toggle works:

  • it only appears when you manually search for a song or select a song from certain groups on the home page.
  • it does not appear to appear if you select a song from "listen again" or "quick picks" in which case the app forces you to listen to whatever is in their queue unless you manually clear the queue.

So no matter what it's still a bad experience.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

oh yeah, you are right-ish. it doesn't show up if you launch a "radio", which innately is a automatic, end-less playlist of similar music. I do agree though that this should be more visible in the UI

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

No. I'm not wrong, and I don't appreciate you repeatedly telling me I am when you obviously have no clue what I'm looking at.

It isn't there. I'm on Android 13 with the latest version of the app. There is no "auto-play" toggle anywhere. I'd upload screenshots to prove it but lemmy is throwing exceptions. I've checked every tab and settings page as well.

[–] uranos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you can use the play next button but it's not ideal

[–] bluemite@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] massacre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No but direct downloads are all the rage. Here are my two favorite sites for free music. Every track is available in either 320k MP3, or FLAC lossless. So they're even better than Limewire ever was:

https://slavart.gamesdrive.net/tracks

https://free-mp3-download.net/ (FYI don't use punctuation in your queries or it breaks the search on this one)

I'm gonna go pull my fucking LPs out of the attic.

[–] Maslo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You want SoulSeek. I swear it's not a dating app

[–] greavous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Don't think so. Soulseek on the other hand...

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not as the software it was, but frostwire is still kicking

EDIT: correction, frostwire is now a BitTorrent client

Looks like there are still Gnutella clients out there though

https://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.io/

[–] PickTheStick@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

If you want a virus and to not be able to download anything, sure. https://fmhy.net/unsafesites#software--apps

[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bluemite@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's kind of a joke, but Napster is actually trying to get back into it. They hired the guy in charge of music from Roblox to be CEO

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

There's literally a feature on Spotify where you can hide an artist and never see it, fyi

[–] PorkTaco@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? Where out of curiosity? I've never experienced that.

[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On PC. Keep (kept) it in a separate window while working.

[–] PurplePropagule@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never had issues with that either tbh. I guess the algo just picked up on something for you. That's annoying.

[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

White guy late 50's? What algo would ever target me?