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IMO comments should never ever be parsed under any circumstances but I probably don't know enough to really speak on this
Can we just clarify that you mean that comments should never be parsed by the language engine. There are valid annotation systems, but the goal is alway to ensure that one passable can never impact the other.
Imagine if here a comment could create a syntax error! This is even worse for runtime scripting languages like python.
Sure, but let's just clarify that this is someone going out of their way to create this problem, using Python's ability to read it's own code.
Basically, you can load any text file, including a source code file, and do whatever you want with it.
So, a function can be written that finds out whatever's calling it, reads that file, parses the comments, and uses them as values. This can also be done with introspection, using the same mechanism that displays tracebacks.
This isn't standard python.
lib
is not in the standard library. Python also doesn't have any special variables where it stores comments, other than__doc__
which stores a docstring. If I had to guess,add
is reading the file/REPL via__file__
.Is __doc__ storing a comment or just a text string?
It's a string, although sometimes Python conflates the two. The recommended way to make a multi-line comment is to just make a multi-line string and just don't use it.
No, your intuition is correct, this is extremely cursed.
Seen in a code review (paraphrased):
"Why does this break when you add comments in the middle?"
Why would python even expose the current line number? What’s it useful for?
On a serious note:
This feature is actually very useful. Libraries can use it create neat error messages. It is also needed when logging information to a file.
You should however never ever parse the source code and react to it differently.
You underestimate the power of us, print debuggers.
Why wouldn't it? Lots of languages do. In C++ you have
__LINE__
.Because it doesn't seem like a useful feature. The only occasion I imagine this could be helpful is with logging to the console to track when the function breaks, but even then - still trivial to replace.
Comments should be removed before shipping.
Python is an interpreted language but for a compiled language absolutely (and obviously).
I guess there could be just a script before deployment.
Well now that causes breakage two dependencies down the line. Good luck with that. 😅
The
add
function in the example above probably traverses the call stack to see what line of the script is currently being executed by the interpreter, then reads in that line in the original script, parses the comment, and subs in the values in the function call.This functionality exists so when you get a traceback you can see what line of code triggered it in the error message
One case where I find it useful, tho it operates in a more limited way, is code in block blocks within code comments in Rust, which are also printed out in the generated documentation. They essentially get ran as part of your unit tests. This is great for making sure that, eg, your examples left in code comments actually work, especially if they’re written in a way that functions like a unit test.
+1 to that!
Ignoring lint issues comes to mind as an at least somewhat reasonable use case.
Some languages use the comments to generate documentation. Something like
// function to add two numbers func Add(num1 int, num2 int)
It's quite useful to parse comments and generate documentation from them, either as plain old hypertext or in your editor with LSP.
That sounds fine if you have something reading the file independently. But the actual executable code should not be able to access its own comments.
capability is fine. Conflation is stupid. You can also use code to erase itself, but thinking that's a good idea is generally wrong. But to remove that, you also remove the general ability to erase files.
Comments aren't normally accessible unless you (independently) open and read the source code file as you would with any arbitrary file.