this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2024
366 points (97.9% liked)

News

23397 readers
3565 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lumber prices are actually currently where they were for much of 2018.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah thats an interesting statement right?

Because when I look up a chart I see the same thing.

But when I go to buy lumber, and especially sheet materials, its all still 2.5x - 3x what I was paying in 2019. So as an individual which should I believe? The lived experience I have is the one that took the money out of my account when I bought the lumber.

Some examples: This was $15 in 2019/20: https://www.homedepot.com/p/15-32-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Sheathing-Plywood-Actual-0-438-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-20159/206827282

(You might get a different price. For me, its $26)

And this was $25 in 2019/20: https://www.homedepot.com/p/3-4-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Hi-Bor-APA-Rated-Sheathing-Pressure-Treated-Plywood-95360/202087831 (You might get a different price. For me, its $60)

Non-treated 2x4 were $2, and treated were $3.5 in 2019/20: https://www.homedepot.com/p/2-in-x-4-in-x-96-in-2-Premium-Grade-KD-HT-Stud-058449/312528776 https://www.homedepot.com/p/2-in-x-4-in-x-8-ft-Standard-Better-Hi-Bor-Pressure-Treated-Lumber-95344/202087781

(You might get a different price. For me, its $4, and $6)

Its a reflection of the same presentation that the Democrats tried to make about the economy: "Look at these abstract metrics disconnected from your lived experience, they say that the economy is great!"

But thats irrelevant if the most reliable form of data I have, my lived experience, disagrees with it. The reality is I live in an old house and it needs some serious repairs. I have to put some of them off because the cost of materials is just ridiculous, let alone trying to find contractors to do work at anything less than robber baron prices.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You probably have to look at the price that Home Depot is paying for it, not the price they're charging you.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Why would I or anyone else give a flying fuck what Home Depot paid for the lumber they're selling me? I can't buy it at their price; I have to buy it at whatever retail price they (or Lowes, or Ace, or TrueValue, or 84, or whoever...) have set.

If the wholesale price of lumber -- which is not accessible to normal people -- has fallen but the retail price is still high, all that means is that these retailers are price gouging which is exactly what the original commenter was talking about.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Whoa there, I was just trying to make sense of the discrepancy.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Again. Think about what you are asking.

You are asking me to make some additional abstraction beyond my lived experience. When you ask me to do that, what does that do to my confidence in your rhetoric?

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I was just trying to make sense of the numbers. We are all acutely aware of the retail price gouging.

Yeah, those prices are based on wholesale.