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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

the war ends easily in 2025 when elon musk tells him over the phone that he needs to surrender and give russia a third of the country

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Basically. Trump’s election signals the end of robust support for Ukraine (if it can even be called that). So Putin is absolutely charged right now and 1/3 could be the best deal Ukraine is going to get. It’s a travesty, but there it is.

I just hope that Putin takes the cue and ends his ridiculous imperialistic drive. His early bloodless annexation of Crimea clearly encouraged broader action, but this war has been an expensive flop for him and I can’t really see him coming back from it to try for more. Unless there is some other neighbor who’s outlying 1/3 he would like to pay a very dear price for.

More likely his prize is concessions on NATO expansion.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

can’t really see him coming back from it to try for more.

Then you clearly haven't studied Russian history and policy vis a vis Ukraine

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That’s true, I am not deeply educated there. Any info you would impart on the topic? Does Russia have some perpetual hardon for controlling Ukraine which will never go down?

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 6 points 7 hours ago

The modern Russian government is essentially claiming the territory of the Soviet Union. The reason they started their invasion now is because it was the last chance before Ukraine would become a EU and NATO candidate. If Ukraine falls, Russia will rearm and try pull the exact same "little green men" strategy in the Baltic states, Georgia and Moldova next.