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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

Looking at this article, there’s only millimolar concentration of ammonia in feline urine (mean 118mM, range 16.9-292 mM). I’d be very surprised if anyone was able to generate significant quantities of chlorine gas by mixing bleach with cat urine.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 4 hours ago

Thanks for sharing this data - it's great.

It actually makes sense; if cat urine contained ammonia the smell would be gone once you washed your cat's impromptu litterbox, since ammonia is both volatile and highly soluble. And yet it keeps stinking - this hints that there's something else there producing that ammonia by decomposition. (Probably proteins. Cats eat a lot more protein than we do.)

Note: chlorine gas is the one that leaks from an open bleach bottle, and gives it a distinctive smell. The ones created by reacting bleach with ammonia are chloramines, considerably more poisonous.

[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't chemistry all a matter of scale though? I admit it's not my field

I mean, if the cat pees on the rug and you clean it up right away, that's probably not a big deal. I imagine it's a different story if you're cleaning out a hoarder's cat colony in a poorly ventilated area and don't dilute the bleach because you wanted something stronger

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, from my personal experience. We mop up dog pee in the house all the time with hot water and a splash of bleach and it's totally fine. It bubbles a little when you rinse the mop in the bucket and you can definitely smell the reaction occurring.

However, I also once cleaned the back patio of my old apartment of a summer's worth of dog pee on concrete with about a gallon of straight bleach and had to wait for it to air out for about 20 minutes because it was a definite chemical hazard. As in, eyes burning, and difficult to breathe. I started pre-rinsing with the hose to dilute everything prior after that.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world -1 points 43 minutes ago

... Why are you constantly cleaning dog pee indoors?

Why was there so much dog pee on a concrete patio?

Neither of these things scream "good dog owner" to me.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

So you're saying there's a chance.