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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Democracy is not binary. That is why democratic scholars consider the United States to be what’s called “a flawed democracy.”

Yes. It just seemed like you considered it as democratic/not democratic, instead of a scale where you could have such a thing as flawed democracy. I might've just misinterpreted your words.

That’s the problem. California and Wyoming are separate, but they are not equal. Wyoming has 1/40th the population. One person in Wyoming has the same voting power as 40 people in California to determine their own laws and taxes. That’s reminiscent of taxation without representation. For all practical purposes, the people of California have been disenfranchised by the US government.

I guess they could've made the original system such that US Senate accounted for population, but it would've been hard to get smaller states to join. It's the reason why we in EU have the equal status.

Lastly, how Ireland, or Star Wars, or anyone else organizes their federal system has no bearing on whether the US Senate is in fact anti-democratic.

It was just an aside I was hoping you'd find interesting.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

True, I know we don’t disagree on the fundamentals. And you make a good point about how some governing bodies like the UN aren’t proportional in their representation. Although to be fair, the UN doesn’t levy taxes or directly interfere in the lives of citizens.

I suppose we could reform the US Senate to be more proportional by adding some seats so people living in populous states aren’t locked out of Federal decision-making.