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    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

    some tar.gz archive with a sketchy install script

    I just can't... like maybe I'm too old and that's why I still can't wrap my head around how we went from "./configure && make & make install scripts are almost the de facto way to install software in linux" to "a sketchy install script". We're living interesting times at Linux

    [–] fireflash38@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

    Blame the thousands of supply chain attacks.

    [–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

    Last time I ran a corporate-made installer, it caused massive graphical glitches and lock-ups after waking from sleep. It basically gave my system computer-AIDS.

    That's why I never run scripts which are too long for me to easily understand outside a sandbox. Official distro repositories and Flatpaks are the only sources I have some level of trust in.

    [–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    In a job interview I asked a CIS grad what the steps are to compile something on the command line and they had no clue. If it’s not “sudo apt install” they are lost.

    [–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

    yeah idk a multi thousand line configure script seems sketchy to me, like what happened with xz

    [–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 2 days ago

    I remember those times too. The difference today is that there are so many more libraries and projects use those libraries a lot more often.

    So using configure and make means that the user also has the responsibility of ensuring all those libraries are up to date. Which again if we're talking about not using binary install, each also need a regular configure/make process too. It's not that unusual for large packages to have dependencies on 100+ libraries. At which point building and maintaining the build for all of them yourself becomes untenable really. However I think gentoo exists to automate a lot of this while still building from source.

    I understand why binaries with references to other binary packages for prerequisites are used. I also understand where the limits of this are and why the AppImage/Flatpak/snaps exist. I just don't particularly like the latter as a concept. But accept there's times you might need them.