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[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They have 4 years to tighten up. I'm not optimistic. The only victory they have had since Obama was a fear victory.. nobody wanted Biden they were scared of trump. That is played out.

The right did a good job of parading him around as an anti-establishment, for the common people candidate. I don't think that's true, but a lot of people do.

I hope the D party reorganizes as a populist anti-establishment party and holds a ranked choice primary with some young actually left leaning candidates who can't be bought.

To be honest, if the D party don't reform and earn my vote, I'm not giving it to them out of fear anymore. Before trump I had a "no lesser of two evils" policy for voting. And I'm going back to it. They had 4 years to plan, hold a primary, do some prosecuting of rich criminals, understand why Trump's popular and strategize to beat it, literally fucking anything. Did they?

I'm over it, they can run a fair primary with some progressive candidates and let the people decide, and then I'll vote. Tired of whatever they're doing and it looks like a lot of others are as well. Hope they figure out the obvious issue they have and fix it. Since its a two party system they're hogging the only route that the left has to success and fucking it up remarkably bad. Like I could do a better job and I'm an idiot.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

While the plan you've outlined in your argument my feel good, it isn't particularly useful for shifting the Democrats to the left. Under this plan, the causalities of this and future Republican administrations will be the cost of doing business.

Consider leveraging power by voting for Democrats in elections to benefit the people who will otherwise be harmed by future Republican administrations. edit: typo

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I live in a really liberal state. So my vote doesn't actually matter.

I'll consider it, and I appreciate the kind response, but to be honest I think if people keep placating them with "lesser of two evils votes" nothing will change.

Hopefully the party can draw conclusions about the 10m people who sat this one out vs 2020, and figure out why.

Edit: do you have an article or transcript for the link? I'm not a video person I prefer to read

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Votes in high population states count less than votes in low population states, because of the electoral college, but they still count.

This isn't about placating the Democrats. It's about not using minorities as currency for a moral victory over the Democrats. The moral victory may feel good, but it isn't useful. A moral victory will not prevent key tipping points in the Earth's ecosystem that will cause catastrophic damage to the environment. Nor will it protect minorities from the fascists who want to kill them.

Hopefully the 10 million people will learn to leverage power by voting for the Democrats in elections even if they don't get anything out of it. Because we all have something to lose by Republicans taking power in the short term. Even if we won't all feel it until the long term.

The Democratic Party does need a populist narrative to appeal to a broader base, but the Democrats are unlikely to listen. The party needs to be hijacked the way Trump hijacked the Republican Party and the way Bernie tried to hijack the Democratic Party. Part of doing that is delaying fascism so that there are still elections and people to run against fascists. edit: typo

Edit: do you have an article or transcript for the link? I’m not a video person I prefer to read

  1. Go to the video.
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  3. Click ...more.
  4. Scroll to the Transcript section.
  5. Click Show transcript.
  6. Click on a line of the auto-generated transcript to bring up the scroll bar.
  7. Click and drag the scroll bar to read the transcript.