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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't more division inevitable, though? I know a lot of people want to believe that Americans are more unified than not, and that we only disagree on some details, but agree on the core principles, but is that actually true? I think most Americans generally believe in broadly liberal ideals, like individual rights and freedoms, but disagree pretty strongly on which rights and freedoms should be prioritized (or recognized/enforced at all), and for whom. And that makes a pretty big difference. Those differences are more fundamental than a lot of people would like to acknowledge. Plus, there are, I think, a not insignificant number of Americans who aren't guided by liberal principles at all. I'm one of those people, and, look, I understand that people like me are a small minority, but we exist. And I'm kind of sick of not having any representation at all.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy that ends with the least resourced groups dead. Good thing the capitalists are famously the least-strapped chuds around.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Maybe you're right. Maybe group autonomy and independence must be sacrificed for economic and material stability. Maybe strong, centralized technocratic states are better for the broad base of people than allowing each group to have their own autonomy and self governance. If that's true, then I guess the US needs to become more like China. How do we go about doing that?