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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Lay it off with blaming people who are mad at Democrats about Gaza for Trump. Honestly, it's tired, inaccurate, and wrong. Trump won the popular vote. The Dems ran a shitty campaign, they had no message, and failed to inspire 10 million of their previous voters.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Any voter who is given the two options of Trump or Harris, and chooses to not vote for Harris deserves blame for that. It should not be a hard choice. It should not be a reality show competition for the most exciting campaign.

Trump has been president before. If someone votes for him now, having been alive and conscious during his previous term, then yes, they are to blame for that decision.

There are no more excuses

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

20% of the population is functionally illiterate in any language, an no one could out simplify Trump's simplified language, 'I good, she bad'.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

People really don't know the extent they went to for this. image

These were plastered up everywhere. Always wondered how effective they would be.

Edit: Signs say "Kamala Crime/Trump Safety" and "Trump low prices/Kamala high prices", incase the image is down or text to speech.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And they will forget what prices were now, when they skyrocket after Trump's tariff. My money guy doesn't think the tariffs will get implemented because "The Money gets what The Money wants". and The Money doesn't want high tariffs. We will see.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hard pills for Dems to swallow: there is only one cure of Right Populism, and it's Left Populism.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, surely it’s more special interest and foreign funding. If they had gotten just a bit more money from AIPAC, they could have won!

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Whoa its anti-semetic not to take Israel's bribes.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago

Oh shit I forgot. It would be literal genocide not to let them launder taxpayer money they got given to them by Congress back into democrats pockets!

You gotta think about those poor white Europeans in Israel! They have it way worse than any group in history, ever.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why? That category of people objectively exists and that category of people objectively chose this and that category of people objectively made an illogical decision against their own interests. Nowhere in the meme is it saying "all voters are in this category", it's simply indicating this category of voter exists which is objectively true.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Why?

Because it absolves the Democratic Party of its responsibility. They said this election was about preserving democracy. Then they didn't do EVERYTHING THEY COULD to get every last person hyped to vote for them. Instead, they complacently chose to ignore the legitimate concerns of a whole number of constituencies. They offered nothing to counter Right Populism. No grand vision, nothing to inspire anyone. They even leashed Walz, for fuck's sake. They let Trump waltz around in Michigan pandering to muslims while either doing fuck all or kicking their own muslim democratic leaders out of their rallies. The. Democrats. Fucked. Up. Stop blaming the voters, blame the Democrats. Otherwise, if your country has fair elections in 4 years, you'll have the same fucking problem all over again.

[–] hraegsvelmir@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

Even better, after all of this, highly influential members of the Democratic Party, like Nancy Pelosi, have the gall to give interviews and respond to voters and other elected officials criticizing the campaign by saying the the campaign was perfect. There is no real desire amongst the Democratic leadership to do anything more than this.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Voters are smart enough to analyze that a man promising to let Putin do what he wants and let Israel eradicate Palestine is worse for both wars than the person who pledges to support Ukraine and keep trying to stop the massacre in Gaza. This meme is about single issue voters who care about that, and the answer was obvious. You could argue the entirety of the 10m voters were impacted by what you're arguing but what you're arguing is not relevant to this meme. It's just shouting at the internet that a third party didn't do things exactly the way you wanted it to.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

With a more representative electoral system, these people you wish to suffer because you dislike them would be able to vote for a political party that best represents them while still counting their vote against the republicans.

Why are you okay with your fellow country men/women/and more being under represented by First-past-the-post voting?

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Remind me how many senate and house seats the Greens campaign for?

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

So how does not voting for Harris fix FPTP?

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You truly believe there's nothing else at play? Being in the midst of a pandemic in 2020 had no part in voter turnout?

[–] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of states expanded mail in voting. Probably removed a pretty large barrier of people who'd rather stay home than wait in line.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure, but unfortunately many people don't care about elections unless it directly and immediately impacts them. A war or a pandemic would absolutely and invariably rally more people to want change than adding little conveniences like mail ballots.