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This happened in Toronto on October 24th

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 58 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"seemingly"

Ye, it seemed like it so we just decided we'd rather burn alive than to actually try opening the door.

News titles sometimes

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fair, but at least they're reporting it and connecting the dots re: this tesla safety issue, which I haven't seen from any legacy media

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We all know American car safety is a joke, that's not news

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What? Our new or modern cars are safe as fuck dude.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are safer for the occupants. With their increased size, increased sound dampening, and reduced visibility, they are more dangerous to those outside of the vehicle.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Edit: my view was changed. I was wrong. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm

Oh sure, but A LOT of people don't have to worry about that. I go from my house directly the highway for 1 hour before I get to my job. I'd rather be safer on the highway for my 2+ hours of commuting a day than the off chance some random is walking on the highway where he shouldn't.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm close to 2m tall, and the hoods of the trucks I walk by on my way to work are up to my shoulders, I think things like size aren't really helping. Naturally, maybe 1 of every 10 trucks this size appear to actually be for work.

I think a lot of the modern safety improvements are great, but just making every vehicle gigantic is doing a lot of harm.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed. And having automated controls for breaking would be a magnificent leap forward. Unless the government steps in to slow down those products there isn't anything to be done.

You can see reform starting in the form of the "Carolina squat" being outlawed in a lot of states to help alleviate some of that pain.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I already think that stock F450s and Ram 3500s shouldn't be road legal, let alone the ones around here with "normal" lift kits.
I've never seen a truck with a proud stance like that, that's disgusting.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

So I'm on the Eastern Eastern shore and most of the 3500s, and the f350/f450s are work trucks. They're always hauling shit. But I'm bias because I only commute and don't really go out and about.

Now the ones that I see that are a problem are the new Silverados /Tahoe/suburban and the F150-F250 line up. And especially the older ones that the kids crank up on stilts. Goofy looking trucks.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Literally everyone should worry about that.

Does anybody drop off their children at school? Do they cross the street? Do they travel?

Pedestrian hostile cars are an everybody issue.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come on. Yes I agree with you but obviously you know that there is nuance to that issue just as others. We aren't talking about gun control.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't really think you've thought about it if you can write that out... Those both are basically equivalent. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wow. Not often does someone change my view on the Internet through a comment section but damn those are pretty close in reportings. I stand corrected.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's more to safety than having the biggest or fanciest car. It's road design, rules, speed, training, etc.

With the skills of an average American driver you wouldn't get your license in some countries.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Yea! Most of us are fucking horrible at driving. Automated processes for safety make us lazier too.

Our road design is pretty well done but the speed/training is fucking atrocious.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

For now.

When the Trump administration is done gutting the NHTSA, not so much.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Worried about libel, it is very likely that someone like Musk would sue.

If they said "It was the fault of Tesla that these people are dead" without proof and without it being a quote from someone else, they can be sued pretty easily.

Authorities are still investigating the crash and fire. But the details that we have so far implicate to some degree the electronic doors used by Tesla and other automakers, which require power to open.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'd like to see Tesla do that because afterwards the court of public opinion will eat them alive!