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Summary

On the War Room podcast, right-wing hosts Natalie Winters and Steve Bannon discussed plans for MAGA supporters to act as “shock troops on the streets” to support Trump’s proposed mass deportations of undocumented immigrants.

Winters argued for a broad removal of immigrants beyond just criminals, framing it as essential to the MAGA agenda.

Bannon praised her view and suggested Trump should target the estimated 11-15 million migrants who entered during Biden’s term.

Both hosts emphasized mobilizing their audience to back this agenda both in public and within the administration.

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

yeah I'm gay and I tried telling my family we should leave, at least to a more blue state, and they brushed me off; and indeed all I had to say was

"ok, well, when I'm the victim of a hate crime I want you to know I told you so. The German 'undesirables' who survived Nazi Germany were the ones who saw the writing on the wall and got the fuck out early while they could. The ones who who wanted to stick around and wait to see how bad it got, they were lead to the gas chambers. After they had their property seized and were brutalized for years at the hands of their government + any other German citizen who wanted to 'do their part'."

nothing else I can do but wait, so... hopefully it's quick. I've resisted getting a gun all this time because I struggle with depression, but there may come a point in the near future where a bullet will be a mercy, so I suppose it doesn't really matter.

[–] yrmp@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I feel for you. I'm a German American dude married into a family of Salvadoreños and we have illegals in our circle of friends/family. Very few of my family members are taking this seriously or treating it with the level of concern it deserves. People just don't have the capacity to understand unmitigated corruption and evil. Most people have something that stops them from being shitlords, whether it's their god, some sort of moral compass, a desire to be liked by others, or whatever. Trump and company don't have that at all. It's pure evil and corruption to the core. It will not be pretty when these two groups and their goals clash.

I hope you can eventually find your way to a blue state, but I'm honestly not even sure that's enough when they're planning on sending national guardsmen from red states into blue states to do their bidding. Couple that with the fact that elections are effectively over in this country and it paints a horrifying picture for the country and the rest of the world.

I've had thoughts about checking out that I can't share with family or really even online for the sake of triggering others and for fear of giving the thoughts credibility in my mind. I have a wife and two young kids that depend on me, so I suppose I will do my best. Their German passports arrive this week and we leave shortly before inauguration day.

Trump's tariffs will wreck Europe's economy. Refugees from Ukraine will come pouring in. AfD will continue to make gains in Germany. CDU will probably win the snap elections that are coming after Scholz loses his vote of confidence. They'll eventually work with AfD as voter pressure ramps up and thus give AfD credibility in the coming years.

I'd still take my chances with Germany rather than stay within the USA.

[–] Crank_it@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I feel the same way about gun ownership. I've avoided it as I have depression. Previously, it was a pretty easy decision.

The rise of fascism has changed the calculus for me. It may be time to arm myself.