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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 152 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Hubi@feddit.org 158 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Don't get your hopes up. Merz would sell his own mother if it raised his chances of getting elected. He's just listening to what's unpopular about the current government and claiming to do whatever is the exact opposite. A lot of it is just hot air from yet another populist.

I expect him to continue support for Ukraine though, so that's good at least.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 89 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Hell, I'm in support of Merz selling his own mother if it means more support for Ukraine.

... I may be in a dark place right now.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 28 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Plot twist: his mom is the youth sweetheart of Putin from his vacations in East Germany, the break up is what turned him into a violent autocrat, her return could heal his little broken heart and make him the tsar of love and harmony.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

If that showed up on Netflix I'd watch it

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago

The real scoop!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And then we sneak up and kill him. Right?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nah, he manages to solve all world conflicts by funneling his stolen billions into massive communication campaigns promoting empathy, which triggers pacific transitions to peacefull democracies in all authoritarian countries.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I want that timeline. Can we please have that timeline?

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

I'm afraid it's DLC only content, and requires a lot of macro-transactions

[–] Mim@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, now voting for Trump (and nothing else would voting for Merz be) is fine?
Hypocrite.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is Merz really Trump-level bad? I know only the basics of German politics (what each party roughly is)

[–] Mim@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Tue be completely honest that would be more like the AfD. But Merz recently cried about how the "Brandmauer" to them was forced upon them by the media and he or his party never used the term.
Which was a lie of course, his then general secretary used it first in like 2021 and shortly after he used it as well. It's just that it was more popular at the time to deny any plan with working with them. And those fucks sure didn't get less shitty over time.

He also said the other day he'd do deals with Trump. Whatever those are supposed to be.

Edit: Forgot the conclusion: Not quite literally a facist like the shit smelling convict, but not all that much better either.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Well, certainly not thrilled about the prospect of Merz, then. Hopefully this position ends up shared amongst the other candidates, though.

He also said the other day he’d do deals with Trump. Whatever those are supposed to be.

tbf, everyone is saying that, in part because "One of the biggest nations in the world just elected a moron we can't work with" is considered undiplomatic, whereas "we'll do deals" gives the illusion of hope and an out if Trump demands something ridiculous (as he inevitably will).

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

All this talk about human trafficking, smh. Sad.

What about we sell his mother for a commission?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's OK. If this. Message is popular it pushes his opponent in this direction too.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

There is only two opponents to Ukraine aid in the current federal parliament. The neoliberal FDP who just got booted out of the government and wanted to use Ukraine aid to ransom away social security, infrastructure investments and work towards mitigating climate change, and the fascist Putin financed AfD. The FDP is Merz favorite potential next coalition partner, if they should make it to parliament again. The AfD is what Merz is working towards since three years, but cannot make a coalition yet, because he needs to work more on normalizing them first. This currently happens on local and state level.

Merz is only been "pro Ukraine" because Scholz messed up regarding Taurus missiles and because the FDP used it as ransom to ruin other aspects of the state budget. Merz focused on this message as a driving wedge in the dysfunctional, now broken coalition. There is little reason to believe, that he is genuinely caring about Ukraine, or that he would make that a deciding factor in coalition negotiations.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Honestly Merz does a lot of shit, but he is for pro Ukranian action, which is relativly unpopular. The issue is more, that he has never been in government and a lot of his other ideas are horrible.

Also the CDU is in parts very pro Russia. Kretschmer comes to mind.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Honestly Merz does a lot of shit, but he is for pro Ukranian action, which is relativly unpopular.

It's not unpopular, the Putin bootlickers just shout louder. The majority still approves supporting Ukraine: https://koerber-stiftung.de/presse/mitteilungen/deutsche-wollen-mehr-in-europaeische-sicherheit-investieren/

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Merz is for what brings German military industrial complex forward.Turn windmills uhm plowshares into swords.

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

It shouldn’t be that only one side wins, we need to make agreements that are favourable to both sides.

Yeah I really hope he means like, Russia fuck off to their side of the fence and everyone peel back sanctions, as opposed to give Russia some of the occupied territory