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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for proving my point better than I ever could.

As a famous right-wing grifter said, "Facts don't care about your feelings."

If a majority of people don't FEEL like the economy is doing well, then it's not doing well. Period.

Is there a fediverse version of /r/confidentlyincorrect?

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for proving my point better than I ever could.

You've proven nothing. Feelings are not hypotheses that can be tested through experimentation or research. There is no objectively right or correct emotional reaction to a situation or experience. If someone feels anxiety or stress about their economic situation, there is no objective, verifiable way of proving that feeling is "factually wrong."

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You're conflating how someone feels about a situation, with whether that feeling is rational, then screaming about the "lIBeral ELiteS!" when that is pointed out to you.

People can feel whatever they want about the economy. The question is, should they feel that way? And by literally any possible way to measure that, the answer is no.

Or to put it another way, if I asked you why you feel the economy is bad, and you can't point to anything to explain that it is (or flatly refuse to accept any explanation) that I give, then you should rightly be told you're wrong, because you are.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

People can feel whatever they want about the economy.

Yes, that's true.

The question is, should they feel that way?

You're making a normative claim. It's the is/ought distinction. There is no objectively true way to determine how someone ought to feel. You think they shouldn't feel that way. Yet, they feel that way regardless. It's not up to you, you are not an all powerful god who gets to decide how people should feel.

Or to put it another way, if I asked you why you feel the economy is bad, and you can't point to anything to explain that it is (or flatly refuse to accept any explanation) that I give, then you should rightly be told you're wrong, because you are.

I'm sure if you asked them they would give you a number of reasons for why they feel the economy isn't doing well. They might say they feel housing prices are too high, or that they're struggling to pay their bills, or that they feel pessimistic about their employment prospects, or that they're worried they won't be able to save enough for retirement, or that healthcare costs are too high, etc, etc.