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And I'm being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don't understand it. Can someone please "steelman" that argument for me?

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The best argument I came across went something like this: if we show the Democratic Party that we’ll accept something as horrible as genocide as long as the Republicans are worse, then we’ve completely surrendered our agency as voters.

Powerful statement. It was the most coherent, rational, well thought out explanation I’d seen. It didn’t come off as a condescending lecture on morality, either. I actually considered their argument for a couple days, but ultimately, I decided it wasn’t strong enough to risk another Trump administration.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It is a stupid fucking statement. "If you aren't perfect on every single issue, then we won't vote for you."

[–] sepi@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  • Step 1: take a conflict your nation did not start
  • Step 2: tear your party apart over a conflict your nation did not start
  • Step 3: lose the electoral fight in your nation to trump
  • Step 4: ensure the war in that other nation is decided in the way your side did not want it to go
  • Step 5: call Joe Biden a genocidal maniac

Maybe I don't want the people who think this is a valid course of action on my side, since they will sabotage my side. If there is a next election, I want these folks ejected from the party and gone. They can vote for trump if they want, because that's essentially what they did.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Israel is an arm of the US, Gaza is a proxy war. American presidents bear direct responsibility for the genocide