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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what you get when "any functional adult" is the standard you hold your leaders to.

[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If that was the standard Kamala would've won

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not convinced Kamala is a "functional adult" she never won a primary. -In fact she got less than 1% of votes in the two primaries (AK, and NH) she did run in respectively, in 2020..

[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So you allowed Trump to win? Fuck you

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Get ahold of yourself. The people who “allowed” Trump to win were the DNC in general and Biden & Harris in particular. It was their campaign to lose, and they lost to a complete clown. Stop blaming anyone & everyone but the Democratic party itself.

See also downthread.

[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

this u: “You let Trump win?” So which is it, did “we” “let” Trump win, or did the voters do the voting?

If we let him win, then who is the “we,“ and how did we “let” him?

If the “voters do the voting,” then I don’t think you appreciate that,

  1. The voters had no say in the Democratic primary.
  2. The US has never been and will never be a democracy, because it was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well it turns out that isn't a good enough standard to get enough people up to vote, but I did hear it a lot from a lot of active posters online.