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[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You don't win an election just with vibes.

Kamala didn't bring as much substance as what the left electorate was expecting from her, and couldn't differentiate herself from Biden and the current term she is serving under. The whole democratic party went under because all they promise is vibes compared the current economical struggles people are facing.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The truth is the dems are a right wing party now, they've been dragged there by the rethugs.. and people Want to vote for an Actual left wing party, but there literally isnt one in the US.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

The dems were never left wing in international standards. otherwise you would already have had universal health care.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The poison of the "big tent". Move a little over to let people in enough and you are no longer representing anyone in a desperate attempt to represent everyone.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

between this and the enshittification of big tech and gaming, it feels like 2024 has been one big argument in support of gatekeeping.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Or you know, not gatekeeping but actually taking a position as a political party (instead of trying to be some grey nothing). Oh and having more then two parties would be nice.

[–] pound_heap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think people want to vote for a party. People want to vote for someone who's making sense for them, and looks like for majority it was Trump this time.

An "actual left wing party" must not only have ideology, but a sound plan on how to improve people's lives and an ability to communicate this plan to people, loud and clear. Actually, as populists are now trusted everywhere in the world, the plan is less important than communication

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

trumps 'road to prosperity' is tariffs... which will lead to a depression, maybe a global one. Thats a helluva plan there

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't read that as OP saying they believed that will work, I read it as saying the majority of Americans (or at least the majority of Americans who bothered voting) believed that.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I think its worth pointing out here that trump 'tariffs' are a great way to extort other counties, they'll all pay that extortion fee directly to donald trump to avoid the tariffs. He will leave the white house a trillionaire in 4 years and nothing can stop it.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was onboard with her but I honestly felt icky every time the Biden administration released a new statement about how good the economy is. How out of touch do you have to be to think the economy is good? Republicans have no intention of fixing that but at least they're smart enough to see that people feel crushed in this economy and pander to it. And apparently that was a much bigger issue than abortion, which shocked me at first but as it settles I see that my fear as a woman pales in comparison to America's fear of a woman and America's struggling financial situation.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

How out of touch do you have to be to think the economy is good?

Liberals measure the health of the economy by Gross Domestic Product (which has been going up), and Consumer Price Index (which includes big-screen TVs). You'd have to dismantle everything they paid to learn in college econ.

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."