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[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 295 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Steve Jobs was the Elon Musk of his time, he just died too soon for everyone to see him for the villain he was.

[–] OscarRobin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Steve Jobs did at least actually do things. Musk just buys things and claims he did them.

[–] SternburgExport@feddit.de 170 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nah Jobs didn't do anything himself. From Wozniaks first computer up to the multitouch display for the iPhone, all of these things were just bought/stolen/copied. Jobs just knew how to put these technologies into something that would sell.

[–] Restaldt@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So elon but a good businessman

[–] msage@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

without the good, or the (hu)man(ity)

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Just like how Elon did not design his rockets, SpaceX engineers did, Steve did not design the iPhone, Apple engineers did.

Also everyone seems to conveniently forget about the factory workers actually building them.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] fred@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

He invented the rounded rectangle, all hail

[–] porkins@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This sells Musk short. He is making smart entrepreneurial decisions for the most part. I hate the monkey testing controversy though.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Woah; that's just so wildly inaccurate; I have no idea what to even say.
Are you really saying Jobs was a transphobic right-wing extremist whose father got super rich and helped him to just buy into uprising companies without really doing anything by himself?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He did father a child he denied to the day he died, intentionally screwed Woz out of his fair share of the apple fortune, killed himself by treating cancer with quackery. Jobs is probably more self made, but that's about it.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He did not deny her until the day he died. She even lived with him during highschool, and he named a computer after her, even though he made up a bogus acronym to pretend that wasn't his motivation.

Woz was worth $500m at one point and is worth $100m today. It's not like he was cut out of the game, he just wasn't interested in money or success the way Jobs was. Without Jobs drive for success, Woz would never have shared his inventions with anyone, it was just a private hobby to him.

Steve was definitely an asshole, but there are plenty of valid criticisms to levy at him, you don't need to misrepresent anything.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

’s not like he was cut out of the game, he just wasn’t interested in money or success the way Jobs was.

You really buy that? That's some bullshit someone says when they got fucked over and know they'll lose and come out worse if they try to get what's rightfully theirs.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woz himself has said as much. The guy has more money than he'll ever be able to spend. He's fine.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Woz himself has said as much.

That's why I said:

That’s some bullshit someone says when...

Don't get me wrong, I don't give a shit about the contentedness of any of these treasure hoarding shitdragons, but there never has been and never will be a person who is fine with getting ass fucked out of hundreds of millions of dollars. Even Muskrat is throwing an endless tantrum and fucking up people's lives over a bad deal, even though he did it to himself on purpose.

[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's true, he was not nearly as bad as Musk. I was mainly talking about how he's a general asshole who steals from others and is revered by techbros. I was maybe being a bit hyperbolic in my comparison.

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

he just died too soon for everyone to see him for the villain he was

Oh he died soon enough.