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How can I vote for Kamala Harris if she supports Israel’s war? Here is my answer | Bernie Sanders
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Actual Palestinians: Please, we're begging you, we know the Biden response since Oct 7 has been disappointing, but things will be much worse under Trump. Please, please, keep Trump out of the White House, if he wins we're doomed.
Some smug moralizing bastard on the Internet: lol both sides
Call me a bastard if you want, at least I'm not using strawmen and ad hominem to defend supporting a genocide.
It's not ad hominem to call you a bastard for being a bastard, it would be an ad hominem to say your argument is wrong because you're a bastard. You're a bastard because your argument is so wrong, not vice versa.
And what strawman? I literally linked you an actual letter by actual Palestinians actually imploring you to vote Harris if you care about them at all, and your response was literally "both sides".
Unless you'd like to enlighten the rest of us why your opinion on the matter is more valid than that of a coalition of Palestinians and Muslim Americans?
If both sides are dedicated to genocide, is it really both sides? Or is it really one side playing as two? You've allowed a political party to convince you that genocide is not only acceptable and supportable, but defendable as well. Where does that end, I wonder? What can't they convince you to be in support of, mein kumpel?
I don't need a coalition of anybody to tell me that even genocide lite is wrong, and should not be supported in any way.
I have only my opinion, and I'm not going to change yours any readily than you are to change mine, as we are opposed to this on a fundamental level. I do believe an impasse had been reached, as further discussion on this topic seems pointless.
Although I disagree with you, I respect your dedication, as misguided as it may seem to me.
I will take that as your admission that you care more about flouting the misguided illusion of morality than you care about Palestinian lives. Thank you for confirming.
Like I said, impasse. I can't keep you from drawing conclusions anymore than you can keep me from drawing conclusions about you and your support of genocide.
Whatever you say. I'm over here doing what the Palestinians asked me to, you're over there doing exactly what Netanyahu wants you to do. Maybe you need to start drawing different conclusions about which one of us is supporting this genocide.
Sure thing, bud. Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify voting for genocidal candidates. You'll always have directly thrown your support to a genocide, and you'll never be clean again.