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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The point isn’t to subject them to gradation, it’s to note the damages they all do in their different ways.

Taylor isn’t exempt from being held responsible for her part just because she’s a nice person.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I mean what is she supposed to do, take a riverboat to her next tour? She's a direct result of a larger cultural fascination, not the problem itself.

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

I'm with you, she can't possibly take any form of public transport. Not because she's somehow better than the rest of us, but for security if nothing else.

And honestly, I can't imagine how much she would disrupt a public airport or train station. No way I would want to be in that place at the same time, it would be chaos.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There’s plenty she could do and tons of other acts throughout history that managed to do what she does with a smaller carbon footprint.

“She has no choice!” is not an argument to defend what she does.

[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perfection is the enemy of good

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Asking someone to reduce their carbon footprint isn’t asking for perfection. It’s simply asking them to participate.

And a blatant refusal to do so is what earned her her spot on this list.

I’m sure she’s a nice person- but being nice doesn’t excuse one from the responsibility of their actions.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can see the straw man that you’re trying to build, so I’ll just stop it right there and say that regardless of what I eat- I’m not putting the equivalent of 200,000 miles worth of jet fuel exhaust into the atmosphere as a single human being per year.

Also, veganism isn’t as environmentally friendly as your assumption would suggest- therefore from my perception, your argument is irrelevant.

And it’s clear that no ground is moving on either side of this debate, so I’m going to end this here and say that we can simply just agree to disagree on the topic.

Have a good day.

[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah you want her to be perfect by your standards.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don’t think you get to tell me what I want. That’s my job. She’s an human being, therefore she’s flawed. This isn’t up for debate.

I would only ask that she participate in reducing her carbon footprint. And I don’t care who you are… 200,000 miles a year in a private jet is excessive.

[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do get to tell you what you are, a perfectionist.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

And I get to tell you you’re wrong. Funny how that works.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The cultural fascination with her doesn’t demand that she use private jets to fly almost 200,000 miles a year.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't it though, imagine her trying to go through the airport. If people would leave her alone it would work out, but cultural fascination implies people will be fascinated. And therefore she, and every other person at the airport will end up delayed over and over and over.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the point being missed is that she takes unnecessary flights and uses too much fuel in doing so.

Look it up. She’s been scrutinized for it pretty publicly. And there are viable alternatives- she just seems to prefer not to use them.

[–] tron@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Not defending her, but it's sorta ambiguous. It sounds like this may have been prep for selling the aircraft.

Per the article you linked:

"The last few flights on this account are right around the time that N898TS was sold," he wrote. "Registration for the aircraft transferred 2/4/2024. These short flights are likely maintenance or demo flights."

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

You should, uh...reaaaaad.