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Bernie Sanders to voters skipping presidential election over Israel: ‘Trump is even worse’
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The US led ceasefire basically walked back any and all real war ending measures and was just basically a propaganda piece covering for Israel.
From the UNs own website:
The vetoed draft would have made imperative an immediate and sustained ceasefire in Gaza, with an “urgent need to expand the flow of humanitarian assistance” to all civilians and lifting “all barriers” to delivering aid Council members disagreed over elements of the draft, and some highlighted glaring exclusions despite having raised multiple concerns with the US during negotiations Ambassadors largely supported swift action to bring food and lifesaving aid at scale into Gaza, where a UN-backed report on Monday raised alarms about famine as Israel continues to block and slow walk shipments into the besieged enclave
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147856
Even when the dems did have power in congress, they did fuck all. As you said, the democratic establishment blocked any movement.
Not voting is intrinsically not a vote for anyone. I've voted dem in every single election since I've been old enough to vote. Genocide is not something I can countenance. If this was the Trump administration doing this the dems would be shouting from the rooftops about how it's inconscionable. They're in control and they are doing the same thing.
Stop relying on black and brown voters to save your asses each time.
I agree, the US resolution was not good. That being said, they've voted in favor of the other 2 resolutions put forward by other countries since then.
And I'm sorry, but in a two party system, withholding your vote for 1 candidate is a vote for the other one. Conservatives, since the moment this country was founded, have attempted to deny our dissuade voting to people. Now those people who they have been attempting to deny are just doing it themselves voluntarily.
I also really do not like the "stop relying on black and brown people" rhetoric. Is it true that the majority of white people are conservative while the majority of POC are progressive? Yeah. But that doesn't mean the white progressives are relying on POC to "save [our] asses." If we're being honest, as a cis straight white middle class male I'll probably be fine under a Trump presidency. I'll pay more for goods and probably have my taxes go up, but so will 99% of the population. What I'm voting for though is the desire to lift every single person up and create an even playing field for everyone. Is it going to happen under a Harris presidency? Hell no. Is it going to happen in my lifetime? Probably not. But by voting Dem are we going to get just that little bit closer? Yes. But that's definitely not going to happen under a Trump presidency, because they will do absolutely everything they can to prevent progress. In fact, they will do everything they can to enact regression as far back as they can. Most Republicans would be perfectly fine with only Anglo -Saxon male land owners being able to vote, and that's what they're striving for.
So hold your vote, that's your right. But that's not what your responsibility should be.