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[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 76 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I met a super prochoice woman once who was a republican. She said she knows her party is wrong on the abortion issue, and it really was the most important thing to her, but she will always be a republican no matter what.

I really was baffled, and still am, at this stance. Trying to figure out the logical consistency in conservatives is a joke

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 30 points 2 years ago

and it really was the most important thing to her

Ok this really perplexes me. I actually understand the other people's reasoning. If you happen to agree with the Republicans on many issues, like if the Logcabin people are anti-choice, anti-immigration, pro–crony capitalism, and maybe those other issues are more important to you than the one where you disagree. In that case it does actually make sense to be a Republican.

But to turn around and say, like this woman does, that you disagree with them on the most important issue and still say you could never vote anyone else? That completely boggles the mind.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Makes sense once you realize it’s the “fuck you, got mine” attitude that’s at the core of republican voters. If/when this women needs an abortion she will get it in a heartbeat because only justified abortion is her abortion. If anyone else needs an abortion - fuck them, why do I care?

Lack of empathy is the key factor.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The hypocrisy of republican women is absolutely nothing new ("I think women are property except me because reasons ¯_(ツ)_/¯" and "only my abortion should be allowed") but I'm a little fascinated by the republican women who are like "we should be property!" I'm sure i'm just falling short, but it's hard to think of a group that seemingly consistently believe they deserve fewer rights.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Stockholm syndrome.

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess she was trying to change them from within? By... consistently voting Republican in every election?

[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I honestly think this is the right answer. My impression was she was very passionate on the issue, and she believed liberals were a lost cause (thanks right wing media) and the smart people on the right with her would listen to reason. Just another victim to the right wing propaganda machine unfortunately (but I must say I do know quite a few far left women today who years ago were pretty far up the republican parties ass, so there is hope for some)

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Politics is kinda like being a fan of a sports team for many people. If my team blows the game I'm still a fan of the team. If some players on the team suck, sure I might want those players traded, but I still root for my team even if they aren't.

And when we're talking about being a fan of sports there's nothing wrong with that. Sports are more fun when you're rooting for a team, even when we know it's fairly arbitrary which team you root for. But once you've chosen your team, you stick with that team otherwise it ruins all the fun. And people respect you for sticking with your team even when they have a bad season.

Of course politics isn't sports, and shouldn't be treated that way. But people do. Like wanting the team to trade the shit players but sticking with them even if they don't, people may want their party to change their stance on some issues but will stick with them even if they don't. They think sticking with the team, no matter what, is admirable. But unlike sports, the team you root for isn't an arbitrary thing that doesn't matter, choosing to stick with a party no matter what has consequences.