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[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

So they're equally terrible on that issue? You could choose to believe that, but I suspect that Kamala's weaselly policy of "promoting a ceasefire" is not as bad as Trump's consistently zionist anti-muslim stances. Believe what you like.

You've got a choice between one person with a terrible stance on Gaza, and who supports women's bodily autonomy, would try to rebalance the Supreme Court, and has no criminal convictions, versus another person with a terrible stance on Gaza, and who will also sign a federal abortion ban into law, will nominate a crowd of clown judges up and down the system, led a deadly insurrection on the nation's Capitol, is a sex abuser, a tax cheater, a convicted fraudster, and is described by those who know him as completely unsuited fot authority.

What are you going to do? If Trump wins it will be because people like you let him win.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Also, the one with the bad stance on Gaza might listen to reason. There's a chance that if she's elected, that campaigns to call her office, protest marches, etc. might possibly get her to change her stance on full-on support for Israel.

If Trump's elected he might change his mind based on bribes or flattery from strong-man leaders, but he won't listen to voters or protesters.

[–] Womdat10@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tell me please, if one person committed a murder, and another person committed 2 murders, would both be evil, or just the one who did 2? Also, this isn't advocating for non-voting, just pointing out that both people are evil. It also never says that they are equally evil, so this isn't a "both sides" argument either.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Both are evil, I agree.

If disarming Israel were on the ballot I would absolutely be your ally in this. If it were an election issue, it would be the most important election issue.

Sadly, it isn't.

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

she is only weasling ceasefire before election. after election she will tell anyone raising it to stfu. the same gun was placed on our head in last election and it will be the same in next election. what has biden done to reverse any of those awful things ? why are samuel and clarence not impeached ? why is trump not in jail ? why has biden not overturned any of the trump corpo tax reductions. he has achieved nothing but death of innocents.

dnc needs to change all the way or we need to overthrow this system. all the lobbyists including aipac needs to be jailed and mic needs to be nationalised or broken up significantly.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Republicans built up to the atrocious system we are in incrementally. Over decades and decades. Western society is a huge paddle-steamer chugging right faster and faster.

Our options are to increase the rightward acceleration or decrease it. It's going to be a long time before that leftward acceleration becomes actual leftward velocity. I'm sorry it is like this. I wish it wasn't.

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

dnc did it to themselves in 2016 when they chose lobbyists over voters. this is not about right or left. dnc just doesn’t cares about its voter base.

biden and harris are carrier politicians who do what lobbyists pay them to do. dnc would have won 2016 if they had even done a fair primaries. they will sweep this election if it was an actual progressive candidate like aoc or bernie. Obama showed it twice.

we are fucked like the Palestinians irrespective of who wins this election