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[โ€“] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

I don't quite understand the downvotes. Ukraine needs more soldiers, doesn't it? Russia has no regulations whom to send in battle and how many. Ignoring the problem does not make it better.

[โ€“] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

This is not Hearts of Iron IV or something alike. The pure size of an army or population is not a relevant stat when trying to predict the outcome of a war. Superiority of equipment, training, strategies, logistics, supplies etc are all far more decisive.

[โ€“] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Of course it isn't the only criteria. Nevertheless Ukraine needs more soldiers, superior equipment doesn't help you to win a war if there's no one to use it or to few to use all of it.

[โ€“] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And superior equipment would save the lives of ukrainian soldiers so fewer would be needed to fight back Russia. So the conclusion should be to supply Ukraine with what it needs.

However, you said

Russia has no regulations whom to send in battle and how many.

and that simply doesn't matter as much.

[โ€“] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't get me wrong. Of course send everything we have to them, Taurus, F-16, billions of dollars. Damn, hit Putin in his Kreml with drones. We should have sent the equipment way earlier when they said they would need it and not months later. (Fuck you, Olaf Scholz.) If we would have done it earlier, we now wouldn't talk about how to Ukraine needs more soldiers. Still send the weapons anyway. But now we talk about the need for soldiers and we can't ignore it when Ukraine simply doesn't have enough soldiers to handle all their weapons and fight back the Russian army on some parts of the front. And that they need more soldiers and have to mobilize is what have I heard a few times in the last weeks.

[โ€“] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, and what are "we" (as in Ukraines western partners) to do about this? We cannot send ukrainian refugees back with a gun and a helmet. We cannot wololo russian soldiers into ukrainian ones. We cannot conjure up soldiers magically. What we can do is send weapons, ammunitions, medical supplies etc. We can enforce sanctions against Russia and its oligarchy making it least profitable and discouraging to fight this war.
Or do you want to send troops?

[โ€“] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Never said we could do anything about that directly (maybe indirectly by sending money). I just said we shouldn't ignore the problem and downvote the post.

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