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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 280 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The last sentence is fucked up. If you're running over hundreds of people how in the fuck do you know they are terrorists. These people are intentionally and knowingly committing war crimes then come back home and cry about how this all made them so sad.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 136 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the IDF is killing people, then they are terrorists. Not the other way around. You are to be checked for antisemitism/glorification of terrorism. Please report to your nearest IDF bulldozer.

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Relevant, from a comment I wrote below that is buried under too many other comments:


If going to jail is the penalty for not joining the IDF, it is the moral thing to do and should be worn like a badge of honor. It’s not complicated at all unless you literally have a death penalty for not joining. I don’t care how controversial this is: if as an IDF terrorist you don’t commit a mutiny, desert, or off yourself, congratulations, you’ve net increased the evil in the world.

Sympathizing with the IDF is 1:1 the exact same as sympathizing with the SS and anyone who says otherwise has both fingers in their ears and yelling nanananana until the crunching noises under their bulldozers stop.

You cannot be systematically eradicating a people you consider inferior and also pretend you have any moral high ground. You cannot bomb hospitals and ambulances and homes and schools and pretend like you are the good guy. You cannot set up viewing platforms to have your kids watch the destruction with your own eyes and claim to be the good guy.

Not to make this about me but I’ve been running myself ragged volunteering at the shelters here in a safer part Lebanon and I’m still fucked up over feeling like I’m not doing enough. Rotting at home will make me feel even worse. I went outside for a walk and wanted to throw up, feeling guilty over being able to go outside and walk to destress as people’s homes get carpet bombed more intensely than legitimate military targets. I know damn well that if I lost my own home these shelters are full and I would have literally nowhere to go. And more people are losing their homes every hour. People are fleeing to Syria and Iraq for safety, even as the border crossings are getting hit as well.

This is beyond ”normal” human evil. If any other army was doing this we would have rows of criminals hanging from cranes in The Hague, instead we have to watch them smugly tell us we’re next in a speech from the UN. For the unforgivable crime of being born on land that apparently exists only for colonization.

Do not let anyone lie to you. A Holocaust is happening right now and it is exactly as evil as the one the Nazis committed.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago

I’ve been running myself ragged volunteering at the shelters here in a safer part Lebanon and I’m still fucked up over feeling like I’m not doing enough. Rotting at home will make me feel even worse. I went outside for a walk and wanted to throw up, feeling guilty over being able to go outside and walk to destress as people’s homes get carpet bombed more intensely than legitimate military targets

Remember the amount of suffering a single human can help to alleviate is finite. You can't save everyone, and you absolutely can kill yourself in attempting to save everyone. War is bigger than any one person, and there is a point where you have done what you can do and you have to make peace with that

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

I am so sorry for what you’re going through, and for what my country (the US) is paying for. But please don’t begrudge yourself a small break. You can’t help others if you can’t even stand up.

I’m so, so sorry. I wish our politicans would listen when we tell them to stop this madness.

[–] gex@lemmy.world 116 points 1 week ago

Anyone who runs is Hamas. Anyone who stands still is well disciplined Hamas.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ask Rachel Corrie, who was similarly run over by a bulldozer protecting Palestinian land. It's been over 20 years and the US still doesn't give a single shit about Israel murdering it's own citizens.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 78 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah I remember reading about her. She was an incredibly brave woman. The most horrifying part was reading about the IDF soldiers who had a pancake party to mock her death.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

was reading about the IDF soldiers who had a pancake party to mock her death.

Yeah, they've really got PTSD from what they do. /s

Give me a fucking break.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Not just soldiers.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 46 points 1 week ago

Look at how well Israeli propaganda is working abroad. Now imagine how well it must be working on the israeli population.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Anyone who runs is a terrorist anyone who doesn't run is a lazy terrorist.