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[–] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The word "Libertaire" (french for left-wing libertarian, the amercian libertarian is called "Libertarien") was created in 1857 to differentiate from "Libéral" (which could be seen as an equivalent to nowadays liberals). In France it is still used as a synonym for 'Anarchist', though it has a wider sense, since it describes any left-wing movement that opposes authority/power (so libertarian communists that do not accept the "anarchist" label are still included in the "Libertaire" label). The Wikipedia page seems well written from what I know.

@LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net Good luck in your reclaming of the word. There are parts of the world and languages in which it is still a powerful and unifying word for anti-authoritarian left, english language can still evolve this way !

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

That's great. In one language. France also calls potatoes ground apples. But we don't directly translate it. We use the words from the thinkers of communism. Which are Communism, Socialism, and Anarchy.

In French it goes back to antinomianism. In English it goes back to the free will debates in religion and political philosophy.

It hasn't been a standardized label used by political thinkers until the early 1900's though. The Wikipedia article is just plain wrong unless it's the French language page. Which it isn't.