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[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My rational side wants to see Harris win, but the anarchist in me wants to see Trump win, just to see what would happen. Not living in the US, obviously.

Trump winning could be a disaster for the whole world since US is such a major player in basically everything, but my anarchist side does not listen.

[–] acid_falcon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

You're a piss poor anarchist if you want the the orange fascist to win

[–] expr@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anarchism is not chaos, which is what it seems like you think it means. Anarchism is the opposition to hierarchy and is thus directly opposed to fascism and therefore Trump. No anarchist wants to see Trump win because it means fascism has won.

[–] acid_falcon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yep. Too many people think anarchy is throwing bricks at windows. It just means opposing hierarchy. Hoping a fascist wins is the literal opposite of that

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What does Trump winning have to do with Anarchy?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They mean in the "chaos" sense, not the Lemmy-friendly sense.

On the other hand, a severe degradation of federal institutions would by necessity promote community-based cooperation. Like in any other disaster, natural or otherwise.

Nobody wants to see it happen this way, but it might be the catalyst we get.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Same story we saw in 2016, Trump has no policy other than destroying American institutions and the status quo, so people get this sort of collapse fetish and pick him for that reason alone.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would U.S.A. foreign policy be drastically affected by who becomes the president?
As a non-American, I think it'd have more impact on the people of the U.S.A and maybe immediate neighbours like Mexico.

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don’t know, to quote someone I read here: “The world shits when the US farts”

US electing an authoritarian might encourage authoritarians all around the world (even more)

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

US electing an authoritarian might encourage authoritarians all around the world (even more)

That maybe a consequence but US foreign policy might improve or remain unchanged under Trump.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

foreign policy might improve under Trump

Let’s see, Israel kills all Palestinians, Russia takes over Ukraine, then North Korea and China initiate actions against South Korea and Taiwan. You have an unusual definition of improve.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Israel will kill Palestinians no matter who comes to power in US. Maybe if Israel doesnt pay him personally anything he might reduce their supplies. If they pay him as they pay all the other politicians it will be business as usual.

At least there would be a chance that spineless and derelict UN will fall.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Trump said he will let Israel “finish the job”. STFU.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I agree Biden now n Harris if she comes next won't overtly support Israel like Trump. They will just send them arms n ammunition as usual while giving soundbites against them.

[–] Zahtu@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Haha, u kidding?

They will improve with authoritarians, where Trump can personally benefit from.

For everyone else it will worsen and set global policies back by at least one decade.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Improve in the sense it will stop butting it's nose everywhere.

[–] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

They’ll both be disasters for the USA.

Trump will be a disaster because millions of Americans who are currently on the brink of poverty will sink into poverty under his policies, amplifying all kinds of social problems and civil unrest.

Harris will be a disaster because she will escalate unpopular military conflicts, overextending the military, further lessening the prestige of the US, and encouraging countries to de-dollarize.

The next four years are going to be rough. There’s no avoiding it.