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[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 9 points 4 weeks ago (19 children)

[https://x.com/shinboson/status/1846000415793463684?s=46](Roko gets dunked on.)

He had some remarkable tweets a few weeks back about how he was the equal of billionaires or some shit. I wish I had shared it.

Is he some kind of computer fondler irl?

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

If he's so smart, why did he put the car in the asteroid belt and not on a road?

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

That launch happened Feb 2018. By that time, I was already solidified as a musk sceptic and didn’t pay attention to the hubbub. Thinking back on it:

  1. Why was this a thing?
  2. per wikipedia:

Musk explained he wanted to inspire the public about the "possibility of something new happening in space" as part of his larger vision for spreading humanity to other planets.’

What I like about the phrasing “possibility of something new” is that nothing new really happened with that launch. We’ve already sent all kinds of junk into space in configurations varying in impressiveness.

  1. Naming the mannequin Starman falls apart since the eponymous starman is an extra terrestrial. Just goes to show that Musk is not a Real Nerd^TM^ and just makes surface level references to look cool.
[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I was also a Elon skeptic back-then, but I'll admit I did get a kick out of the "don't panic" dashboard.

But golly does he read H2G2 completely wrong (transcript):

I think and it highlighted an important point which is that a lot of times the question is harder than the answer. And if you can properly phrase the question, then the answer is the easy part. So, to the degree that we can better understand the universe, then we can better know what questions to ask. Then whatever the question is that most approximates: what’s the meaning of life? That’s the question we can ultimately get closer to understanding. And so I thought to the degree that we can expand the scope and scale of consciousness and knowledge, then that would be a good thing.

It's backwards! It misses the joke! It took thousands of years and they got a nonsensical answer before any question! It took a thousand more and they got a nonsensical—incompatible—question! It has been theorized that should someone understand the universe it would be replaced by something more complicated! It has also been theorized this has already happened! Also regarding scale of knowledge, Trin Tragula definetly showed that the One thing you can't afford to have in this universe, is a sense of perspective!

Surely his reading comprehension isn't actually this bad, and he only got a bad meme-cliffnotes version of the radio-series/books/movies!?!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

Surely his reading comprehension isn’t actually this bad, and he only got a bad meme-cliffnotes version of the radio-series/books/movies!?!

Ow boy do I have some stories for you about his takeaways from other media he consumed. For example, and a worse take.

(There was also a take which I remember where he mentioned that in the Culture humans are basically pets of the AIs (which is mentioned in the books yes, but only by the people who are anti/sceptical of The Culture, The Culture itself makes it pretty clear they are not pets. (In the last book they even seem to fulfill some more vital role in keeping the AIs sane, and people have full autonomy in a way that pets never do)). Couldn't find this take sadly. As everything is now about the Haitian pets thing (erugh, racist shits), and also this 'humans are pets' thing is an not uncommon misreading of people reading the culture novels).

[–] maol@awful.systems 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"utopian anarchist" I assume means "it would be nice in theory".

Nah, his ego is big enough that he's probably some version of the an-cap, with a personal political based in "I could give everyone this utopian world if the government and the 'woke mob' and the labor organizers would just get out of my way."

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 4 weeks ago

fucking hell how are Musk’s Banks takes even worse than I remember? that was the point where I realized I hated the fucker so you’d think there’d be nothing left to feel rage over but no, Musk corpsefucking Iain’s memory once he was too dead to tell Musk to go fuck himself is absolutely doing it

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 4 weeks ago

~aaaaaaaaaaaa~aaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

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