this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2024
746 points (98.2% liked)

196

16509 readers
2542 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] crowbar@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What if shes hitler's stan? Or trump's supporter? Or voldemort's death eater?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then she's still someone, just someone shitty.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More likely someone scared and misinformed and has a bit of the old attitude polarization (which comes when not schooled on critical thinking.) We naked apes are smarter than the average hominid but with uncommon exception, not that much smarter.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

No, there are plenty of women who actively reinforce hierarchy over egalitarianism for the same reason men do. They want to feel special in comparison and in competition to other members of their perceived cohort. A woman might feel extra powerful from the idea she was disadvantaged and became an oppressor herself.

Or worse, she has the "temporarily embarrassed billionaire" or submissive perspective and reinforces the system at her own detriment because she doesn't want to stick out and is angered by others sticking out as it would invalidate any progress she has made under the current regime.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That would make her an asshole, but leave her personhood intact.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Theoretical a person, though I feel like anyone who is a Nazi loses their humanity.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago

This is always going to be thorny because it depends what you mean by personhood or humanity, or whatever term is being discussed.

Some people view acknowledging that everyone possesses these innately and indelibly as akin to saying they're an adequate or worthy person. Not unlike how some people get offended when you call really shitty art what it is - art (albeit shitty).

I'm not going to defend Nazis, but I fall in the indelible camp. To me it's like acknowledging that someone can feel pain. It's just a matter of reality.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Then damn her by her beliefs and actions

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The more I learn about Bellatrix, the more I pity her. Voldy never even saw her as a person, I honestly think that he cared more about Harry than he did her.

[–] crowbar@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

To be fair I too, would give more thoughts for my would-be downfall-bearer which is also a part of my soul than a work mate