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A few years ago I came across ultra-insulated high efficiency fridges, like this now discontinued SunFrost design.

Extra thick insulated walls are only part of the reason those are so efficient, but I figured, is it possible to at least get kinda close by adding extra insulation to the outside of a normal fridge? For many fridges, the answer is yes!

This old post from a 2012 eco-modding forum claims that, using just regular old styrofoam, they were able to cut down the energy use of their old energy-hog fridge from 274kWh per year down to 128kWh per year! (And they wrote a little guide on how they did it too).

Those sorta numbers kinda blew my mind. Not only is it possible to save more than half in yearly electricity costs, it also keeps an old fridge out of the landfill instead of being replaced with a modern, more efficient one. And bear in mind, that's just with styrofoam, which according to this handy little chart, has an R-Value of 4 per inch (High density EPS, i.e, Expanded Polystyrene, is what is usually referred to when we say styrofoam). Imagine what sort've numbers they could've got with proper insulating foam with an R-value of 10 or 13 per inch!

I was able to find another post on this topic over on reddit, which brings up the biggest downside of doing this modification: It's ugly.

I think that could be negated somewhat if you're creative and painted the foam (it'd probably look cool if you painted it white or black and sprayed a solarpunk logo with a stencil on it), but I suspect for most, this will be a dealbreaker for a main kitchen fridge (not to mention, you may not have enough clearance for the extra foam in your... Fridge slot?)

Still though, those power saving numbers are difficult to ignore, and I could see people going for this on secondary a garage fridge, like the dude in the second link did. It would have a dramatic effect in energy consumption if the ambient temperature around your fridge is usually pretty hot, as hotter outside temps dramatically increase energy useage.

Now you can't do this to any 'ol fridge or freezer. Some designs dissipate their heat through the metal skin of the fridge itself, and covering it with foam would quickly destroy it. But if your fridge has a visible condenser coil somewhere, either on the back of the fridge, or underneath, you're probably good to go as long as those coils remain uncovered and can get adequate airflow per their design specs.

I think this modification is probably best suited for older, less efficient fridges, where it'll give the most noticeable benefit in energy and cost savings. But if you did apply it to a modern high efficiency fridge, you could probably get near the efficiency of a factory-made ultra-insulated fridge (which currently go for a whopping $2,150!) for a fraction of the price.

EDIT: Found some more numbers in this video. Using 3/4" foam (less R-value), the guy in the vid achieved a 20% reduction in energy use. In comments, another person reported a 45% reduction in energy use after applying 1" foam.

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What I wouldn't mind is a chest-style fridge.

They're shockingly efficient (no, really: the cold air won't fall out, so they use dramatically less power) but, for whatever reason, there's no such thing, just freezers.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Iirc, this is mostly a myth. The majority of the thermal mass in a fridge is the stuff in it, and the temperature of the stuff doesn't move nearly that much from just opening the door briefly.

The reason chest fridges arent that popular is the inconvenience of having a bunch of liquid jugs and fresh food stored in a pile as opposed to on shelves.

[–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not a myth. What's inside the fridge doesn't really matter when talking about efficiency. It pretty much only depends on the rate at which energy seeps into the fridge from outside. All else being equal, chest fridges allow significantly less heat transfer through an open door than regular fridges, and are therefore a more efficient design.

You're completely right about the second part, though. It's just not practical, and the fact you would have to keep the door open longer while you rummage around for stuff renders the point moot anyway.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not a myth....................and the fact you would have to keep the door open longer while you rummage around for stuff renders the point moot anyway.

So they are correct in a practical sense but not in a scientific theory?

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

they are incorrect about the reason but accidentally correct about the outcome

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That just reminds me about 10th grade geometry.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

What do you mean I have to show my work? I got the answer right, didn't I?

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

I'm correct because the door is closed nearly always. The difference in performance with the door open is barely relevant.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's not really a myth, see for yourself with the ugliest link ever: https://www.energystar.gov/productfinder/product/certified-residential-freezers/results?search_text=&sort_by=annual_energy_use_kwh_yr&sort_direction=asc&page_number=0&lastpage=0&search-1=&type_filter=Chest+Freezer&type_filter=Upright+Freezer&is_most_efficient_filter=0&capacity_total_volume_ft3_filter=7+-+13.9&capacity_total_volume_ft3_filter=14+-+21.9&markets_filter=United+States

you'll notice that by capacity chest freezers are more efficient. There are a lot of factors stacked in their favor though:

  • cold air sinks as mentioned above, while not the majority of the thermal mass in a fridge you lose quite a bit every time anyway.
  • convection is a lot stronger than people often realize, and upright freezers are more prone to unforced convection, especially because of the aforementioned air loss (replaced by warm air flowinginto and out of)
[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So I looked at link and I'm not sure this is making anyone's point but mine. I don't dispute that a chest freezer is more efficient, just not massively so. It looks like 15-20% more efficient for a chest vs upright, which is not shocking at all. And a fridge with it's smaller gap to ambient will get less of a benefit. The air inside just isn't that hard to cool and door is closed the overwhelming majority of the time.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

well you can define when the efficiency is impressive or not to you, now people can go look at the numbers. 20% is pretty substantial, but if you are disappointed it's not 90% then i dont know what to tell ya

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

You can easily make one by adding a thermostat inline with the power cord to a chest freezer.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

They kind of exist in the form of car fridges