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[–] atocci@lemmy.world 145 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Wait what's the deal with the horses? I want to feel good about myself today.

Edit: Wow, those bastards have it rough.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 190 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Their genetics have sacrificed nearly every aspect of basic resiliency for maximum speed on the plains. Most of the work caring for horses is keeping them from accidentally killing themselves. Full disclosure: I worked as a stable hand as a child in exchange for riding lessons. Will never ever own a horse.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What preditor was so fast horses had to evolve to that extent??

[–] PyroVK@lemmy.zip 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Big cat. You're aware of the cheetah? Just picture that but not in Africa

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 week ago (15 children)

You know what really caught me up: where are horses native to?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are wild horses on the Mongolian steppes.

All other horses are domesticated. Even the free horses in USA and Australia are descendants of domesticated horses.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You're right! But also, horses were native to North America but they went extinct 10,000 years ago and weren't introduced until much more recently.

[–] thurmite@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Don’t tell that to a Mormon

[–] PyroVK@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

PBS Eons has a couple good videos on both horse evolution and domestication.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It’s just a damn good series in general as well

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Us. They basically tried to beat pursuit predation by outrunning the distance humans will be willing to track over.

It did not work, they went extinct in North America because of how much it did not work.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Large predatory flightless birds probably didn't help either.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Ah, sweet home Caelid

[–] Dutczar@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"What are those? I know predatory and flightless birds, but both?"

I have looked it up before posting, I learned something new today.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They are known as terror birds. Think of a ten foot tall ostrich with a flesh tearing beak like an eagle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phorusrhacidae

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Human. Not for food, but because they always choose to breed on the Porcshe over the Toyota Hilux for racing.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The wording here makes it sound like we hunted horses for the specific purpose of having sex on them, and honestly, I'd probably be running as fast as a car if that kept happening to me too!

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago
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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago

Same for rabbits. The are basically as much lean muscle that can fit on the lighest possible skeleton.

If you pick up a rabbit wrong, they can snap their own back with the momentum from kicking their back legs.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I did this too and will also never own a horse lmao. This is why horse people are weird.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Some people love caring for fragile things. Boosts their self-esteem. It can also break them when they fail.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago
[–] klemptor@startrek.website 6 points 1 week ago

Same here haha

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Basically a 900LB Cocker Spaniel that's afraid of it's own farts and will eventually kill every single tree within reach. I also will never own horses.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 23 hours ago

i mean if i haven't kept the best diet for a couple days i'm afraid of my own farts too

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes they will die because they can’t puke. Also broken legs are usually fatal even with vet care.

[–] LennethAegis@fedia.io 110 points 1 week ago (7 children)

To add on why broken legs are fatal: its because horses are so big, that even with a sling, they cannot support themselves well on 3 legs. And lying down is also not an option as their own weight will crush their internal organs if they stay down for too long.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, wow, I had always thought that shooting a horse with a broken leg was an act of brutal expedience, not mercy.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

It's sad, but it's common medical practice in modern horse hospitals:

[–] frosty99c@midwest.social 27 points 1 week ago

Also, don't they need to run to move food through their digestive tract? Or to force themselves to cough if they have something stuck in their lungs? I think there is some sort of dependency of basic functions that relies on the movement of their lungs/stomach going back and forth while running that they can't easily do if they just stand in one place all day

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Also their blood gets pumped through their hooves, and to much weight on one hoof can impede blood flow through their body.

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[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The term healthy as a horse is mostly survivorship bias

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From what i read here there's no unhealthy horse, it's either healthy or dead.

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[–] klemptor@startrek.website 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And they run around at 60mph on the tips of their toenails.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

I mean, humans run around on something that birds would consider knees, and stupidly try to support their entire body weight using only half their legs.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Humans have multiple toes because our ape ancestors used their toes like fingers. Having multiple, separate toes is probably bad for survival unless you're using toes to manipulate tools.

Animals that have distinct toes include apes, geckos, mice, raccoons and similar animals which need them to grip onto surfaces or to manipulate things. There are predators which have separate toes because they're a place to mount claws: eagles, cats, etc. There are animals that have separate toes with webbing between for swimming. But, for a lot of animals, separate toes aren't really useful, so they've evolved away: elephants, rhinos, giraffes, horses, cows, etc.

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[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

The term healthy as a horse is mostly survivorship bias