wervenyt

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[–] wervenyt@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Whereas plenty of guys have. I'd like to consider myself a feminist, but in my experience, I'm not welcome to the label, since it seems that progressive women are less compassionate than "nonpolitical" ones when it comes to relating to the issues of men. It's obviously not some issue with feminism, but we don't get to have popular movements and also ignore their ills. The vast majority of educated feminists agree with you. The vast majority of people in the streets calling themselves feminist seem entirely in it for themselves, and it's really tiresome when well-meaning feminists who aren't just exercising their trauma, the people that men like these most-need to have honest conversations with, insist that men don't know what happens to them.

Apparently, there are no misandrists, according to online discourse. Should I tell my memories they're wrong, that I should have just been more open-minded as a young child when more than one teacher preached that men are evil and stupid, and deserve subjugation? Or maybe, just like how misogynists are good at covering it up around their friends, so are the handful of misandrists who do exist?

[–] wervenyt@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Except that's literally what I quoted.

[–] wervenyt@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

don't treat them as wretched just because they are men

Why would gender-neutral language be appropriate for this venue? It's a discussion of how men are treated, and people who parrot "men are scum" will automatically say "yeah but what about the bad men? are we just supposed to feel bad for them?". It's written for an audience that is not specifically you.

[–] wervenyt@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

In general, posting publicly about these kinds of workarounds is a bad idea. It'd be great to share them with the world, but the sooner Youtube finds out about them, the sooner they break. Keeping the recommendations to in-person or at least in private channels helps to maintain the obscurity that allows them to exist.

[–] wervenyt@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

I don't care about your opinions, use windows all you want. I just find it hard to believe that the person you replied to was really just whining, that nobody else appreciated or was interested in helping them, and so they were actually just pissing and moaning. Link the thread if you want someone to take your weird implied hostility in good faith. Otherwise, yes, my paraphrasing is as valid an interpretation of what you've relayed so far as any other. How does that skepticism and tone-matching equate to getting defensive over your disagreeing with me?

Generic venting without supplying any details or citations is a pretty aggressive and hostile message to send, why are you surprised it's met in kind?

[–] wervenyt@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I hate to break it to you, but you're the person everyone else is talking about. You went into a special interest forum and more or less said "have you tried not caring about the subject?".