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Kinda hard to have an equal discussion when being a woman entails being sexually harassed and occasionally assaulted by a bunch of men, mostly ones you barely know or don't know at all, on a regular basis before you even hit puberty. Your "sex war" is more like a sex genocide with the effects biting the whole male demographic in the ass, even the ones who didn't cause it.

It's also hard when most of the men that participate in this discussion (despite often not wanting to admit it at first) subconsciously think that women should listen to their venting 5 seconds after meeting them and be in a relationship with them and hug them and bang them and stuff. Seriously, interacting with guys just feels like gambling, with most of them forming some sort of unhealthy obsession with you and taking your kindness as a sign of weakness or inability to see their red flags; to a lot of guys, interaction with them is basically a green light to move on you. It sometimes feels like life is a "don't unintentionally upset or engage with a random man too much or else he might find your phone number on the dark web and send you texts threatening to rape, torture, and murder you". We live in a society where it's relatively common for high school girls to have a guy classmate they occasionally talk to tell/text them that they wanna rape her, just unfiltered and out there because she decided to have a conversation.

Their problems are caused by patriarchy too, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to subject myself to sexism from them. They, whether they realize it or not, feel like they deserve what they want from a woman, the unfairness of women not wanting them makes them frustrated and they see gender equality as a means to an end, they see it as a way to have women finally love them.

It's not so much of "women and men are equally fucking up and need to make up" as it is "women are extremely scared by men, and negotiating with the likely emotionally unstable potentially violent people with nothing to lose who probably thought about you and them dating immediately after seeing you never seems like the good option". It's like encouraging kids to interact with people who they think are violent and might shoot up a school in order to convince them not to shoot up the school... Even talking to someone out of pity is endangering yourself.

Most guys want to get in your pants or eventually get to that point, whether you're apathetic to them or nice to them or mean to them. How am I supposed to talk to guys about sexism when usually their main concern is the lack of action with women and my main concern is interacting with men is inherently extremely risky and I fear I'm about to get raped or murdered when a man raises his voice at me?

It has to be at least 95% of straight men who are the danger women have to do conversational twister with to be relatively safe and comfortable around, and the remaining portion of men usually take an "insult" about the majority of men as an "insult" to them.

Men and women are both negatively affected by our sexist system but the playing field is not level. The solution is getting a majority of men to realize exactly what women deal with from men, and getting them to actively work against their subconscious sexism to promote a safer environment for women and remove the high risk of interacting with men, including by halting the rampant objectification of women and their bodies, so women and men can actually be humans with each other for real. The widespread outrage things like the bear meme gets show that this probably isn't going to work out any time soon. Men usually immediately think of it as a challenge to "prove" that women are worse by saying a lot of them are bitchy and hard to read and gold diggers or something, rather than a way to understand why women can't feel safe around men the same way they can around women. But instead men think of it as how women feel about any single man, including them.

At least there are communities like !mensliberation@lemmy.ca that are on the right path though. Sigh.

You must be blind or something because I linked real data that goes directly against what you said about Spanish scientific output. In fact, you were raving about all the "philosophy" Spanish doesn't have, despite Spain with its Spanish language literature often being one of the most important and highest-producing countries in terms of publications in philosophy and other humanities. Convenient for you to ignore it I guess.

You also said this:

The languages with the most intellectual capital are Western European languages like English, German. East Asian languages like Mandarin are growing intellectual capital.

Very clearly you thought that Mandarin has less intellectual capital than English and German, and that Mandarin was just "growing" but not actually ahead. Which is just not true, definitely not for German.

I can tell you have no idea about how rich scientific literature in other languages is, because you aren't involved in scientific literature and you don't speak other languages.

... evidence that Spain is in Western Europe? Or that throughout history, diversity in scientific ideas and the progress brought by said diversity have come in large part from language divides? You know, like, the entirety of medical history and modern-day biodiversity sciences? Or evidence that China surpasses the US and Germany in scientific production? Or how Spanish-language publications are extremely prevalent in many subjects, like linguistics, philosophy, social sciences, and humanities like archeology where they tend to surpass othern non Chinese/English speaking countries, and where Spain tends to have more importance than every country other than China, the US, and occasionally the UK?

It's easy to tell from the actual data that there's plenty of science in non-English languages, including Spanish, and many primarily Spanish-speaking countries have their own niches that they occupy (with Spain being one of the most influential forces in a lot of social sciences, humanities, and related subjects, and Argentina, Mexico, and Chile each especially pulling more than their weight in specific subjects).

Where exactly are you confused?

Western European languages like English, German

... and Spanish? Do you forget that Spain exists, is in Western Europe, and is where Spanish spread from, or? Spain alone produces around as many scientific publications as France, Italy, Japan, Australia, Canada, Russia, etc. depending on the year – impressive considering it's both less populated and poorer than those countries – and including Latin American countries like Chile, Mexico, and Colombia makes Spanish surpass all languages other than Chinese and English in amount of scientific literature. I'm also not sure where you got the idea that the German language contributes more to human knowledge than Chinese, China produces far more scientific output than the US and around 4-5x as much as Germany.

Something tells me you don't speak any 2nd language, you've never left the country, nor are you involved in academia or qualified scientific research at all, and you're trying to speak about things you don't know about. You're some sort of pseudo-intellectual who has no qualifications or talents, but thinks you're on the same level as actual philosophers by copy-pasting links of news articles about problems you don't actually know anything about to Reddit and Lemmy.

I work in a computational natural science and much of the general humanities, philosophy, linguistics, and psycholinguistics literature I've read from the modern era is in Spanish, and plenty of Spanish papers are incredibly rich & high quality despite them. It's impossible to ignore non-English languages' significant contributions to scientific knowledge, and especially the Spanish-speaking world's impact on modern science.

Regardless of that, the amount of papers about iguana mating written in a language isn't relevant at all to migrants. If anything, a population speaking different languages is a good thing for science, because that kind of separation encourages thinking about and discussing problems in a different way, and adopting different focuses or techniques. Throughout history, many divides in science coincided with language divides, with the most prominent scientific breakthroughs often coming from people in different "camps" which coincided with the language they spoke, e.g. the Arabic-speaking world would have their own views on a specific problem or field which eventually turned out to be the dominant view, and the Italian-speaking world, and the Greek-speaking world, and the Latin-speaking world, and the German-speaking world, and the Judeo-Spanish-speaking world, and the Akkadian-speaking world, Hebrew & Aramaic speaking world, and the Chinese-speaking world, and the French-speaking world... many languages encourages many forms of thinking, and encourages innovation.

The dominant languages in the US/UK/Canada, China, Germany, and France have the most scientific literature available because those countries' governments are able to spend an extremely large amount of money to subsidize and drive scientific research, and have large relatively well-off and well-educated populations to become scientists. With the US seeing an increasing number of Spanish-speakers in their population, it's likely it'll eventually see a large rise in Spanish-language scientific literature produced in the country at some point.