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[–] self@awful.systems 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that seems about right, and “this anti-cult information source isn’t actually anti-cult, it’s a competing cult you should avoid” is a pretty common form it can take. it’s very convenient for the cultists, because it defuses criticism without engaging with it, by keeping all thought within the framework of the cult. the idea that we all organically stumbled upon Rationalist ideas (or were exposed to them through our friends or industry) and wholesale rejected them, must be eliminated as a possibility. we must have an ulterior motive that can’t be summed up as “hahaha holy shit look at these assholes” — or else the cult has to accept that a lot of people legitimately hold the idea that Rationalists and Zizians and all of Yud’s other ideological children are in fact fucking assholes.

[–] self@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago

“the companies declared that they do not operate in Italy and that European legislation does not apply to them.”

ah, the “you can’t prove I touched you with the shit-covered stick” defense that all the AI and social media companies pivoted to when they decided it was easier to break European law than comply with any amount of consumer protection legislation

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago

you came into TechTakes wanting less snark? holy fuck you’re lost

[–] self@awful.systems 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

if I wanted to cheat the downvote count I’d just modify our instance’s database. our view of votes is different and neither our posters nor our instance really give a fuck which posts random federated weirdos like or don’t like

feel free to report me to me though

[–] self@awful.systems 29 points 2 months ago (8 children)

no, the downvotes are me because a lot of these takes are shitty

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

my least favorite thing about old forums, which carried over to a lot of open source spaces, is how little moderation there is. coming into the help forum with a “no fuck you help me the way I want” attitude should probably be an instant ban and “what the fuck is wrong with you” mod note, cause that’s the exact type of shit that causes the community to burn out quick, and it decreases the usefulness of the space by a lot. but somehow almost every old forum was moderated by the type of cyberlibertarian who treated every ban like an attack on free speech? so you’d constantly see shit like the mod popping in to weakly waggle their finger at the crackpot who’s posting weird conspiracy shit to every thread (which generally caused the crackpot to play the victim and/or tell the mod to go fuck themselves) instead of taking a stand and banning the fucker

and now those crackpots have metamorphosed into full fascists and act like banning them from your GitHub is an international incident, cause they almost never receive any pushback at all

[–] self@awful.systems 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So I check the 7b model again, and this time round that’s also censored. I panic for a few seconds. Have the Chinese somehow broken into my local model to cover it up after I downloaded it.

what

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

oh this is brilliant, I’ve been looking for something like this

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago

ah, I stand corrected! the figures I was looking at previously were for doing it at acceptable speeds in a data center.

can you imagine the intensity of the RGB in the boy genius Prompt Engineer’s new $6000 custom top end gaming PC with server components? maybe they’ll have the LLM slowly plagiarize them a Python script that turns on more RGB when the GPU’s under load.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Is the R1 model better than all existing models? Well, it benchmarks well. But everyone trains their models to the benchmarks hard. The benchmarks exist to create headlines about model improvements while everyone using the model still sees lying slop machines. No, no, sir, this is much finer slop, with a bouquet from the rotting carcass side of the garbage heap.

[…]

This crash doesn’t mean AI sucks now or that it’s good now. It just means OpenAI, and everyone else whose stock dipped, was just throwing money into a fire. But we knew that.

Slop generators are cheap now, and that’s a sea change — but the output is still terrible slop, just more of it.

this bares repeating. I’ve seen quite a few people declare that DeepSeek fixes all of the issues with LLMs as a technology, but that just isn’t true. a DeepSeek LLM is still an unreliable plagiarism machine with no known use case trained on massive amounts of stolen data, even if OpenAI and other American ghouls were the ones who did the theft in the first place.

there’s a small victory in that Altman and friends were exposed very publicly as lying grifters, and that’s worth celebrating. but it’s very important to not get swept up in a hype wave, especially one crafted by people who are much more competent at managing public opinion than Altman & co. from what I understand: no, this thing isn’t meaningfully open source. ~~no, you can’t run the good version at home.~~ sure, it performs great at the benchmarks we know were designed to be cheated. yeah, DeepSeek LLMs are probably still an environmental disaster for the same reason most supposedly more efficient blockchains are — perverse financial incentives across the entire industry.

but hey, good news for the boy genius Prompt Engineer at your company: he gets to requisition another top end gaming PC, absolutely drowning in RGB, to run ~~the shit version of~~ DeepSeek on. maybe in a couple months he can spin switching from OpenAI’s rentseeking to a DeepSeek LLM startup’s slightly cheaper rentseeking into a mild pay bump.

e: see david’s reply, I’m wrong about not being able to run the full version at home — but you need $6000 of fairly specific hardware and it’s molasses slow

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

I love both the content of this post and the fact that it’s a self-contained torture test for our pict-rs upgrade

also, lol @ musk, war genius, starting a domestic dispute with his ex-girlfriend cause she dared to betray him in his baby mobile 4x game when betrayals are a core part of every 4x I know

I’m getting the strong mental image of musk being the guy who flips the board 12 hours into Twilight Imperium cause the other players didn’t let him win

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago

18 minutes isn’t even long

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