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[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you answering to the right post?

[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Forge not only has all the decks with their original printings but also has the capability to play against the AI.

 

I personally use cockatrice, there's almost always a game available

MTGO and MTGA are the official clients (MTGA only has brawl. MTGO has commander but is also not particularly budget friendly). There are also unofficial ones like cockatrice, untap.in, xmage, forge (with some of these, you might be able to play commander, with others not). Many also play commander via webcam using https://spelltable.wizards.com/

source

I've been playing some Magic recently on Forge and considering rejoining my local game store (LGS). However, it seems like the company is pushing Commander a lot, and the most recommended way to play it is through Cockatrice. Nevermind, I'll keep playing on Forge, and maybe I'll try Cockatrice. I'm just not excited about playing a format where "Bobsponge" is a thing. It makes me wonder, what are they even doing with this game?

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3x Core Set 2012 Draft on XMage (media.discordapp.net)
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[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 1 points 1 year ago

You can either go here https://mtg.wtf/deck Or the same data is also exported to mtgjson if you want it in JSON format https://mtgjson.com/ The same data is also available in a few other export formats.

Source data for it is in https://github.com/taw/magic-preconstructed-decks with source URLs for every deck (some of these expired by now and you'd need to go to the Web Archive - WotC redesigns its website every few years, killing old URLs).

Inferring exact set and collector number based on all available information is done algorithmically.

Everything should have correct names, quantities, and set codes.

A few cards won't have correct collector numbers. The list of cards which are generally expected to not have exact collector number: "Plains", "Island", "Swamp", "Mountain", "Forest", "Wastes", "Azorius Guildgate", "Boros Guildgate", "Dimir Guildgate", "Golgari Guildgate", "Gruul Guildgate", "Izzet Guildgate", "Orzhov Guildgate", "Rakdos Guildgate", "Selesnya Guildgate", "Simic Guildgate"

For everything else, the algorithm is exact as far as we know. Anything the algorithm can't detect automatically it flags, and we resolve it manually.

Tomasz Wegrzanowski

I noticed that the default deck download format on the website doesn't include set code and collector number information.

If you're fine with JSON, you can use mtgjson, or this file: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/taw/magic-preconstructed-decks-data/master/decks_v2.json (which is exported to mtgjson).

In case it matters, collector numbers are Gatherer-style not Scryfall-style (so DFCs are 123a / 123b, not 123 etc.). This only really affects cards with multiple parts.

Do you have any more questions?

Tomasz Wegrzanowski

 
[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can download the .txt file for each decklist from MTGGoldfish by clicking on the "Download > Exact Card Versions (Tabletop)" button. However, please note that these files may not be compatible with Xmage due to differences in formatting. Nonetheless, creating a conversion script should not be too difficult.

[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 1 points 1 year ago

https://github.com/taw/mtg

mtg

Magic the Gathering scripts.

scripts

  • analyze_deck_colors - reports colors of the deck according to correct algorithm [ http://t-a-w.blogspot.com/2013/03/simple-and-correct-algorithm-for.html ]
  • clean_up_decklist - clean up manually created decklist
  • cod2dck - convert Cockatrice's .cod to XMage's .dck
  • cod2txt - convert Cockatrice's .cod to .txt format
  • txt2cod - convert plaintext deck formats to Cockatrice's cod
  • txt2dck - convert plaintext deck format to XMage
  • txt2txt - convert plaintext deck format to plaintext deck format (i.e. normalize the decklist)
  • url2cod - download decklists from URL and convert to .cod (a few popular websites supported)
  • url2dck - download decklists from URL and convert to XMage .dck format
  • url2txt - download decklists from URL and convert to .txt format

data management

These are used to generate data in data/, you probably won't need to run them yourself

  • generate_colors_tsv_mtgjson - generate data/colors.tsv from mtgjson's AllSets-x.json (recommended)
  • generate_colors_tsv_cockatrice - generate data/colors.tsv from cockatrice's cards.xml (use mtgjson instead)
  • mage_card_map_generator - generate data/mage_cards.txt
[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here are step-by-step instructions to migrate decks_v2.json to .dck files with the desired structure, assuming no prior knowledge of the command line:

  1. Open a web browser and go to the following link: https://github.com/taw/magic-preconstructed-decks
  2. Click the green "Code" button and select "Download ZIP" to download the repository as a ZIP file.
  3. Extract the ZIP file to a folder on your computer.
  4. Open the folder and create a new file migrate_decks.py.
  5. Right-click on the file and select "Open With" and then choose a text editor such as Notepad or Sublime Text.
  6. Copy the following Python script and paste it into the text editor:
import json
import os
import re

from typing import List, Dict

DECKS_FOLDER = 'Preconstructed Decks'

def load_decks(file_path: str) -> List[Dict]:
    with open(file_path, 'r') as f:
        return json.load(f)

def format_deck_name(name: str) -> str:
    name = name.lower().replace(' ', '_').replace('-', '_')
    return re.sub(r'[^a-z0-9_]', '', name)

def get_deck_info(deck: Dict) -> Dict:
    return {
        'name': format_deck_name(deck['name']),
        'type': deck['type'],
        'set_code': deck['set_code'].upper(),
        'set_name': deck['set_name'],
        'release_date': deck['release_date'],
        'deck_folder': DECKS_FOLDER,
        'cards': deck['cards'],
        'sideboard': deck['sideboard']
    }

def build_deck_text(deck_info: Dict) -> str:
    lines = [
        f'// {deck_info["name"]}',
        f'// Set: {deck_info["set_name"]} ({deck_info["set_code"]})',
        f'// Release Date: {deck_info["release_date"]}',
        '',
    ]

    for card in deck_info['cards']:
        lines.append(f'{card["count"]} [{card["set_code"]}:{card["number"]}] {card["name"]}')

    lines.append('')
    lines.append('SB:')

    for card in deck_info['sideboard']:
        lines.append(f'{card["count"]} [{card["set_code"]}:{card["number"]}] {card["name"]}')

    return '\n'.join(lines)

def build_deck_path(deck_info: Dict) -> str:
    return os.path.join(deck_info['deck_folder'],
                        deck_info['type'],
                        deck_info['set_code'])

def write_deck_file(deck_info: Dict, deck_text: str) -> None:
    deck_path = build_deck_path(deck_info)
    os.makedirs(deck_path, exist_ok=True)

    filename = f"{deck_info['name']}.dck"
    file_path = os.path.join(deck_path, filename)

    with open(file_path, 'w') as f:
        f.write(deck_text)

def migrate_decks(input_file: str, error_file: str) -> None:
    decks = load_decks(input_file)

    error_decks: List[Dict] = []
    for deck in decks:
        try:
            deck_info = get_deck_info(deck)
            deck_text = build_deck_text(deck_info)
            write_deck_file(deck_info, deck_text)
        except KeyError:
            error_decks.append(deck)

    if error_decks:
        with open(error_file, 'w') as f:
            json.dump(error_decks, f)

if __name__ == '__main__':
    migrate_decks('decks_v2.json', 'error_decks.json')
  1. Open a terminal or command prompt on your computer. On Windows, you can do this by pressing the Windows key and typing "cmd" and then pressing Enter.
  2. Navigate to the folder where the decks_v2.json file and the migrate_decks.py file are located. You can do this by typing cd followed by the path to the folder, such as cd C:\Users\YourName\Downloads\magic-preconstructed-decks-master.
  3. Type python migrate_decks.py and press Enter to run the Python script.
  4. Wait for the script to finish running. It will create a .dck file for each deck in the decks_v2.json file, with the desired structure.

Note: If you don't have Python installed on your computer, you can download it from the official website: https://www.python.org/downloads/. Choose the latest version for your operating system and follow the installation instructions.

[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://github.com/taw/magic-preconstructed-decks-data

This repository contains machine readable decklist data generated from:

Files

decks.json has traditional cards + sideboard structure, with commanders reusing sideboard.

decks_v2.json has cards + sideboard + commander structure. You should use this one.

Data format

Data file i a JSON array, with every element representing one deck.

Fields for each deck:

  • name - deck name
  • type - deck type
  • set_code - mtgjson set code
  • set_name - set name
  • release_date - deck release date (many decks are released much after their set)
  • cards - list of cards in the deck's mainboard
  • sideboard - list of cards in the deck's sideboard
  • commander - any commanders deck has (can be multiple for partners)

Each card is:

  • name - card name
  • set_code - mtgjson set card is from (decks often have cards from multiple sets)
  • number - card collector number
  • foil - is this a foil version
  • count - how many of given card
  • mtgjson_uuid - mtgjson uuid
  • multiverseid - Gatherer multiverseid of card if cards is on Gatherer (optional field)

Data Limitations

All precons ever released by Wizards of the Coast should be present, and decklists should always contain right cards, with correct number and foiling, and mainboard/sideboard/commander status.

Source decklists generally do not say which printing (set and card number) each card is from, so we need to use heuristics to figure that out.

We use a script to infer most likely set for each card based on some heuristics, and as far as I know, it always matches perfectly.

That just leaves situation where there are multiple printings of same card in same set.

If some of the printings are special (full art basics, Jumpstart basics, showcase frames etc.), these have been manually chosen to match every product.

If you see any errors for anything mentioned above, please report them, so they can be fixed.

That just leaves the case of multiple non-special printings of same card in same set - most commonly basic lands. In such case one of them is chosen arbitrarily, even though in reality a core set deck with 16 Forests would likely have 4 of each Forest in that core set, not 16 of one of them.

Feel free to create issue with data on exact priting if you want, but realistically we'll never get them all, and it's not something most people care about much.

[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

tappedout exports as csv with set information:

.csv
Board,Qty,Name,Printing,Foil,Alter,Signed,Condition,Language
main,1,Beacon Bolt,GRN,,,,,

.dck
1 [GRN:?] Beacon Bolt

Here is a Python script that reads the .csv file and writes the required format to a .dck file. This script uses the csv module to read the .csv file and write to the .dck file.

import csv

def read_csv_file(file_path):
    with open(file_path, 'r') as file:
        return list(csv.reader(file))

def write_to_dck_file(file_path, data):
    with open(file_path, 'w') as file:
        file.writelines(data)

def convert_csv_to_dck_format(csv_data):
    csv_header, *csv_rows = csv_data
    return [format_dck_line(row) for row in csv_rows]

def format_dck_line(row):
    quantity, name, printing = row[1], row[2], row[3]
    return f"{quantity} [{printing}:?] {name}\n"

csv_data = read_csv_file('input.csv')
dck_data = convert_csv_to_dck_format(csv_data)
write_to_dck_file('output.dck', dck_data)

This script works as follows:

  1. It opens the .csv file in read mode.
  2. It creates a csv reader object to read the .csv file.
  3. It skips the header row using the next() function.
  4. It opens the .dck file in write mode.
  5. For each row in the .csv file, it formats the line as per the .dck file format. The format is "Quantity [Printing:?] Name". Here, Quantity is the second column in the .csv file, Printing is the fourth column, and Name is the third column.
  6. It writes the formatted line to the .dck file.

Please replace 'input.csv' with the path to your .csv file and 'output.dck' with the path where you want to create the .dck file. Run this script in a Python environment, and it will create the .dck file with the required format.

[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 1 points 1 year ago

Manabox has a list of all precon lists and exports in "n cardname (set)set#" format

 

I've been wanting to get started using XMage and thought it would be fun to play a few matches against the AI with the GRN Guild Kit decks (GK1) using the original printings. I found decklists on sites like mtg.wtf that list the card names and quantities, but they don't specify the original set name and card number for each card.

For example, this GitHub repo has decklists for various preconstructed decks, but also lacks the specific set information and card numbers.

What I'm really looking for are decklists that include the card name, quantity, set name, and card number in the set for each card, ideally formatted like this:

quantity [SETCODE:collector number] cardname

This .dck file format used by XMage would allow me to easily import the exact preconstructed deck I want to play with the original printings, without having to rebuild it.

It made me think how nice it would be to have all the preconstructed decks available as .dck files with the original printings specified, nicely organized into folders by product. That way I could easily grab the exact deck I want to play with in XMage without having to build it manually.

Does anyone know if prebuilt decklists with detailed set data like this already exist somewhere for preconstructed products like the Guild Kits? Or if not, I may try writing a script to generate them before manually creating the files myself.

Please let me know if you know of any resources where I could find complete decklists for preconstructed decks specifying the card names, quantities, set names, and card numbers! This would save me a lot of time in recreating the decks accurately in XMage.

[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was thinking just a few days ago how I wish I was playing Magic: The Gathering when some sets were released to play Limited with those sets. Seems like I've found just what I wanted.

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Our mission is to provide a welcoming community for Limited Magic players of all skill levels to experience each set released throughout the history of the game! We play using the XMage game software.

We have 7 weekly pod drafts here - four chronological ones called Chrono Leagues where we draft an official historical WotC format every week, and three Bonus Leagues where our players themselves choose the formats.

Custom "remastered" sets are designed by members of our community which we draft on Draftmancer. Matches are played on XMage with a full rules engine, all for free!

I discovered this on Draftmancer's Featured Communities

xmage discord

[–] counterspell@mtgzone.com 1 points 1 year ago

A Flashback Draft is a limited-time event on Magic Online where players can draft and play with sets from the past. The sets available for Flashback Drafts change regularly, and Wizards of the Coast does not publish a schedule for them. However, players can stay up to date on upcoming Flashback Drafts by checking the Magic Online website or following Magic Online's social media accounts. Flashback Drafts are a popular way for players to experience sets that they may have missed or to revisit sets that they enjoyed in the past. The entry fee for Flashback Drafts varies depending on the set and the type of draft league, but players can typically use event tickets or play points to enter.

Flashback Format

  • Inspired by the MTGO Flashback Drafts, but for constructed play

  • Minimum deck size: 60 cards

  • No more than 4 copies of any card, except basic lands

  • Cards can be of any rarity

  • The legal card pool changes every month, based on a randomly selected block from Magic's history

  • You can only use cards from the chosen block, and only from the sets that were released at that point in time

  • For example, if the block is Innistrad, you can use cards from Innistrad, Dark Ascension, and Avacyn Restored, but not from Shadows over Innistrad or Eldritch Moon

  • Additionally, you can only use cards that cost less than $1 according to Scryfall's market price

  • This format lets you revisit old sets and experience different eras of Magic with a budget-friendly twist

  • It challenges you to adapt to changing metagames and discover new synergies with limited card choices

 
 

Do you play tabletop Magic at your local game store (LGS)? Perhaps you prefer the convenience of Magic: The Gathering Online (MTGO) or Magic: The Gathering Arena on your computer. Or maybe you like playing on your phone or tablet with the Android version. Let me know how you play and what your preferred platform is!

I used to play MTGO on Linux through Wine, but it stopped working. Trying it in a VM was too laggy. So I finally bought a cheap Windows machine primarily to run MTGA and MTGO smoothly. Personally, the convenience of digital clients has won me over, but I have fond memories of Friday Night Magic at my LGS, specially a $1 entry format we played with crappy decks and store credit prizes because I liked the nostalgia of it being similar to when I started playing instead of the competitiveness of the typical standard format, where it seems like all the decks are similar netdeck copies.

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Heirloom Format

  • Inspired by the MTGO budget format Heirloom but with paper price limits

  • Minimum deck size: 60 cards

  • No more than 4 copies of any card, except basic lands

  • Cards can be of any rarity

  • The legal card pool rotates a month after each Standard set release based on card price thresholds checked on Scryfall with the following search:

f:vintage ((rarity:c and eur<=0.1) or (rarity:u and eur<=0.2) or ((rarity:r or rarity:m) and eur<=1)) and tix<=0.05
  • Common cards under 0.1 EUR/0.05 tix

  • Uncommon cards under 0.2 EUR/0.1 tix

  • Rare cards under 0.3 EUR/0.2 tix

  • Mythic cards under 0.6 EUR/0.5 tix

  • Very low barrier to entry with decks costing less than $10, unlike Pauper where some "budget" decks still cost $60+

  • If the format was popular enough to influence card prices, rotations would ban the most used cards, preventing the metagame from becoming stagnant

  • Lets you play with cards that are bad in other formats but become viable here

  • Encourages creativity in deckbuilding with quirky card choices

  • Games decided by wits and luck rather than coin

I'm excited to hear your ideas for cheap MTG formats!

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