52% of white women voted for trump.
Chances are that many of the people crying about men voting trump, are part of a demographic that mostly voted trump.
Trump apparently won the popular vote anyway. Most of everyone who voted, voted trump. But let's focus on men and then be surprised that young men who are very insecure about themselves anyway, feel attacked by the left and choose the right.
I really understand you and given your personal experience (and pain), your reaction might be a bit too confrontational but certainly understandable. I am sorry if I said anything that opened old wounds in you.
I obviously think accepting oneself is very important. I would be never deny the possibility of they being trans. I wasn't and aren't aware how often "femboy" is a expression of denialism, or if I misunderstood you, the more appropriate term. Thanks for clueing me in.
That being said, I don't think I denied the possibility of him being trans but argued for accepting them in public discours however they identify. That doesn't mean you can talk about the general tendency of closeted trans women in regards of being femboys in public. But maybe not about specific people. I am not affected and can't tell, but I am really scared that arguing in public without the required context could be a way to unintentionally teach harmful behavior to people, naming publicly doubting and creating a somewhat hostile environment. I am cis straight but it doesn't take me much empathy to find tears for the pain in the heart of the people we talk about. I just wanna less their pain and maybe that leads on the long term wrong path.
I wanna tell you good bye and hope to read you here again. I wish you happiness. Take care, sister.
I am happy that you care but you realize that I didn't express that he shouldn't get hrt. The person expressed that they are one and in public discours it is good to accept them like that. If the discussion would be about hrt, I would see where you are coming from to express your assumption but in this case, it is just not really accepting them. It is "I know better, you trans" over a concern that is in the context not expressed and visible.
Remember that trans people and "femboys" might read this and your words to me, a cis man, could impact them, that is why I am insist on calling him what he expressed, fictional or not.
Your concern is accepting and welcoming and trans people probably appreciate your concern and a "femboy" might understand you and accept that it isn't a dismissal of him but a accepting of a trans person. But unstated, it will be read differently.
Take care.
He is what he says he is. Please be accepting.
I have never seen a more easily offended person as a person who calls others snowflake.
It is not a screengrab.
"Not the other way around" hahaha good one!
That quote was "misquoted" hahaha sorry but you realize that I made it up by combining the meme in the post of this comment section and the words of the user that I talked to, to highlight their nonsense. How is that misquoted? Like if I write "I am stinky", i am not misquoting anyone because I am not assigning it to anyone. I am not claiming that it is a quote. and if I did, I would be the author of the quote and how the fuck do I misquote myself? So what are you on about here???
So now you want to tell me that a third party voter disagrees with Harris and trump in all point the same amount? What a ridiculous notion. What would they say? "I disagree that trans people should be allowed to exist but also I disagree that trans people shouldn't be allowed to exist." Get serious.
"Democrats acting like there is no comparison between them and the republicans" there isn't though. One party supports a guy who has a history of praising Hilter and Nazi Germany in general, tells the IDF to finish up, supports white supremacists, and of course, expresses fascistic ideas. The other is in favor of democracy, her name is Harris. Sure, the democrats has their flaws, but there is no comparison.
"The democrats are helping to kill your family and friends..." Yes. Yes I would. Because my understanding of politics is practical and not idealistic. Harris can be convinced that supporting this is a big mistake. Trump wants them to finish up. Third party is a lost vote for the party that I agree more with, so a vote for trump in practice. So I would vote for Harris. I am sorry for the victims but I rather help them a little in reality than a lot in fantasy.
"Gain votes": to this point, I wrote a lot and decided to keep it short. This is besides the point of our discussion. It is heavily implying that Harris is making her decision to maximize her voter turnout. It is naive to think voter turnout is the only concern of a vice president with foreign policy experience in regards of going against a close military ally and years of co-operation of their intelligence agencies. I don't know if you know but a lot of security software used in the us is written and/or owned by former unit 8200 members; you know the israeli intelligence corps. There is a risk why the us banned Kaspersky, after Russia invasion. But as I think all of this is besides the point, I will leave this with a "I don't support the way Israel is operating, regardless how one wants to call it, it is morally wrong. Don't understand my criticism of nativity as a support of Harris's stance"
Please look into how the us election works and tell me again that it is cultural.
The us system is so broken that splitting the vote is a reality. If you believe that Harris is more your candidate than trump than voting third party makes it more likely than trump wins. That is sad reality. Voting third party is voting against your own best interest.
I feel bad for Americans but the land of the free doesn't let you vote who you like but forces you to vote against who you hate.
Also what quote did you mean? I am still looking for an answer.
Good read but not really a response to what I said or what you said. I assume our conversation ended. Have a nice day
You are right... They talking about voting for Harris would be like cutting of a hand and implying that voting for trump is like cutting of a arm; and instead of choosing one of them, one should fight the System; certainly doesn't carry the implication that one should vote third party.
But I am wondering what am I not understanding about the conversation?
You are aware that 52% of white women voted for trump and that he won the popular vote by nearly 5 million votes (72,656,451 for trump, 67,978,280 for Harris) between both that is 140,634,731 votes. So 1% would be 1406347.31. so trump won by about 3% popular vote.
Blaming specifically men and exclusively, is what pisses them off.
America is sexist and racist.