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As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has. […] The reality is the United States is already dominant. The country is expected to produce 13.2 million barrels of oil per day on average this year — millions of barrels more than Saudi Arabia or Russia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/

The slightly-lesser evil is still omnicidally evil.

As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” [...] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has. [...] The reality is the United States is already dominant. The country is expected to produce 13.2 million barrels of oil per day on average this year — millions of barrels more than Saudi Arabia or Russia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/

The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has. [...] “If you were to show someone who came from Mars the line of U.S. oil and gas production over the last 15 years, they probably would not be able to tell whether a Republican or Democrat was in the White House,” said Jason Bordoff, founding director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University. [...] The reality is the United States is already dominant. The country is expected to produce 13.2 million barrels of oil per day on average this year — millions of barrels more than Saudi Arabia or Russia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/

To convince Greens or Carlins (people who don't vote because the Democrats are still too evil from their point-of-view) to vote for Democrats, you need to understand yourself and them. Once you do that, you'll be able to offer more convincing arguments to support your position.

If you're voting for Democrats, you possibly agree with the following scale of evilness:

• 10 Hitler
• 9 Stalin
• 8.5 Trump
• 8 Republicans and people who vote for them
• 7
• 6
• ~5-3 elected Democratic party members
• 2
• 1 you
• 0 Jesus

The thing is that Greens and Carlins see the world very differently:

• 10 people making the biosphere unlivable thru overpopulation
• 9 factory farmers and commercial fishing companies
• 8
• 7 Hitler, Stalin
• 6
• 5 George W. Bush, Putin
• 4 Trump, Republicans, and people who vote for them
• 3 Gore, Obama, Democrats, and people who vote for them
• 2
• 1 Sanders
• 0
• -1
• -2
• -3
• -4
• -5
• -6
• -7 them
• -8
• -9
• -10

The Greens' and Carlins' priorities are very different. They may think that choosing to make the biosphere unlivable is the worst thing you can do, because without a biosphere that supports life, nothing else matters.

They may think that torturing trillions of fish to death every year, and enslaving hundreds of billions of animals in torturous conditions every year, is worse than all genocides and wars in all of history combined. They think that supporting even a single genocide is bad.

They may think that given the choice between popular Hitler, popular Stalin, and unpopular Gandhi; they'd rather vote for Gandhi than the popular lesser evil, because that specific evil is omnicidally evil. It's better to vote for good and fail, than it is to vote for evil and succeed.

produce their meats

Billions of individuals choose to eat animal products giving money to factory farmers and industrial fishing companies - 2 industries that cause more pain and suffering than all other atrocities ever committed in all of history, combined (1-3 trillion fish are tortured to death every year by fishing companies, and at least hundreds of billions of animals are enslaved in torturous conditions in factory-farms every year). I live in a 3rd world country, and went vegan almost 20 years ago. For the people causing most harm: those in rich countries, it's easier to be vegan.

For those who can't grow their own plant-food, there's still this: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-kcal-poore

Reducing emissions is a systems problem, it’s not about telling people to “be more green”

It's both: "No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood."

Corporations aren't causing a mass extinction just for shits and giggles, they're doing it because billions of individuals buy their products and services. If the billions of individuals stopped buying it, the corporations would stop making/offering it. The rich cause more harm in the short term, but even poor people having more kids despite the biosphere not being able to sustainably support even a fraction of the current population, are more omnicidal in the longer term.

It used to be mostly smoking; now it's mostly eating animal products and processed food, and poor sleeping. The advice given for decades is still valid: only whole-plant food and water, lots of exercise, and proper sleep.

Possible reasons listed in article:

• obesity,
• metabolic syndrome (abdominal obesity, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, high serum triglycerides, and low serum high-density lipoprotein),
• added sugar,
• processed food,
• ultra-processed foods,
• consistently high blood glucose,
• insulin resistance,
• change in sleep patterns (children sleeping less, shift work and artificial light),
• microplastics,
• antibiotics.

Millennials are not moving to the right as they age.