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That Time Eliezer Yudkowsky recommended a really creepy sci-fi book to his audience (medium.com)
In which a Eugenicist Effective Altruist advocates becoming a cuckold for the greater good in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
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In which a Eugenicist Effective Altruist advocates becoming a cuckold for the greater good (nicholasdecker.substack.com)
submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
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From the author of "EAs should probably focus on recruiting the ultra-wealthy"

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The Tech Baron Seeking to “Ethnically Cleanse” San Francisco (newrepublic.com)
 

The article doesn't mention SSC directly, but I think it's pretty obvious where this guy is getting his ideas

GabAI system prompt leaked in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

When they made an alt-right equivalent of Patreon they called it "Hatreon". This stuff is like a game to them.

'It’s a common misconception that we recommend all EAs “marry to give,” or marry a high-net-worth individual with the intent of redirecting much of their wealth to effective causes' in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
'It’s a common misconception that we recommend all EAs “marry to give,” or marry a high-net-worth individual with the intent of redirecting much of their wealth to effective causes' in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 3 points 8 months ago

I'd say it's half-serious satire; she did end up dating a "high net-worth individual", after all.

'It’s a common misconception that we recommend all EAs “marry to give,” or marry a high-net-worth individual with the intent of redirecting much of their wealth to effective causes' in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If Caroline Ellison hadn't been in an actual relationship with a "high net-worth individual" I would have said it was just straightforward satire, but given the context I think she's using mask of irony to pretend she isn't revealing her true self.

Her words may be satirical, but her actions were more like "this but unironically".

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'It’s a common misconception that we recommend all EAs “marry to give,” or marry a high-net-worth individual with the intent of redirecting much of their wealth to effective causes' (web.archive.org)
 

An old post from Caroline Ellison's tumblr, since deleted.

SBF's effective altruism and rationalism considered an aggravating circumstance in sentencing in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Here is the document that mentions EA as risk factor, some quotes below

Fourth, the defendant may feel compelled to do this fraud again, or a version of it, based on his use of idiosyncratic, and ultimately for him pernicious, beliefs around altruism, utilitarianism, and expected value to place himself outside of the bounds of the law that apply to others, and to justify unlawful, selfish, and harmful conduct. Time and time again the defendant has expressed that his preferred path is the one that maximizes his version of societal value, even if imposes substantial short term harm or carries substantial risks to others... In this case, the defendant’s professed philosophy has served to rationalize a dangerous brand of megalomania—one where the defendant is convinced that he is above the law and the rules of the road that apply to everyone else, who he necessarily deems inferior in brainpower, skill, and analytical reasoning.

The current TPOT implosion in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"post-rationalists", essentially just rationalists who reject Yudkowksy's anti-woo stance

The current TPOT implosion in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

I should probably confess I didn't actually read the longer ones all the way through, for the reason you just demonstrated.

The current TPOT implosion in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, seems doubtful they'd get along though I imagine both groups were present based on what I know of the rationalists.

Also lol at the gender ratio.

The current TPOT implosion in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I should have said at least two sex offenders.

In other threads people are saying the victim was his 9 year old stepdaughter, but who knows?

The current TPOT implosion in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Apparently Aella and Robin Hanson showed up at vibecamp too, I guess it's a big deal for the greater rationalist community.

The current TPOT implosion in c/sneerclub@awful.systems
[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I apologize if you saw my post before the current edit, I was similarly confused.

To clarify, there are actually two sex offenders, Brent Dill ( @HephaistosF) and a friend of his, @chaosprime (haven't discovered the real name yet). Someone recently posted @chaosprime's criminal record showing that he was convicted of sexual assault in 2000.

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"As always, pedophilia is not the same as ephebophilia." - Eliezer Yudkowsky, actual quote (www.lesswrong.com)
 

I somehow missed this one until now. Apparently it was once mentioned in the comments on the old sneerclub but I don't think it got a proper post, and I think it deserves one.

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The SSC subreddit ponders the difference between Bayesianism and plain old bias (old.reddit.com)
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"Successful people create companies. More successful people create countries. The most successful people create religions." (blog.samaltman.com)
 

From Sam Altman's blog, pre-OpenAI

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Effective Altruism Funded the “AI Existential Risk” Ecosystem with Half a Billion Dollars (www.aipanic.news)
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"it’s like the stages of a rocket ship and racism was the first stage" (awful.systems)
 

Image taken from this tweet: https://twitter.com/softminus/status/1732597516594462840

post title was this response: https://twitter.com/QuintusActual/status/1732615870613258694

Sadly the article is behind a paywall and I am loath to give Scott my money

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To what extent did Eliezer Yudkowsky invent the Effective Altruist movement? (forum.effectivealtruism.org)
 

I was wondering if someone here has a better idea of how EA developed in its early days than I do.

Judging by the link I posted, it seems like Yudkowsky used the term "effective altruist" years before Will MacAskill or Peter Singer adopted it. The link doesn't mention this explicitly, but Will MacAskill was also a lesswrong user, so it seems at least plausible that Yudkowsky is the true father of the movement.

I want to sort this out because I've noticed that a recently lot of EAs have been downplaying the AI and longtermist elements within the movement and talking more about Peter Singer as the movement's founder. By contrast the impression I get about EA's founding based on what I know is that EA started with Yudkowsky and then MacAskill, with Peter Singer only getting involved later. Is my impression mistaken?

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Who Is @BasedBeffJezos, The Leader Of The Tech Elite’s ‘E/Acc’ Movement? (www.forbes.com)
 

At various points, on Twitter, Jezos has defined effective accelerationism as “a memetic optimism virus,” “a meta-religion,” “a hypercognitive biohack,” “a form of spirituality,” and “not a cult.” ...

When he’s not tweeting about e/acc, Verdon runs Extropic, which he started in 2022. Some of his startup capital came from a side NFT business, which he started while still working at Google’s moonshot lab X. The project began as an April Fools joke, but when it started making real money, he kept going: “It's like it was meta-ironic and then became post-ironic.” ...

On Twitter, Jezos described the company as an “AI Manhattan Project” and once quipped, “If you knew what I was building, you’d try to ban it.”

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The Inside Story of Microsoft’s Partnership with OpenAI (archive.is)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
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Most of the article is well-trodden ground if you've been following OpenAI at all, but I thought this part was noteworthy:

Some members of the OpenAI board had found Altman an unnervingly slippery operator. For example, earlier this fall he’d confronted one member, Helen Toner, a director at the Center for Security and Emerging Technology, at Georgetown University, for co-writing a paper that seemingly criticized OpenAI for “stoking the flames of AI hype.” Toner had defended herself (though she later apologized to the board for not anticipating how the paper might be perceived). Altman began approaching other board members, individually, about replacing her. When these members compared notes about the conversations, some felt that Altman had misrepresented them as supporting Toner’s removal. “He’d play them off against each other by lying about what other people thought,” the person familiar with the board’s discussions told me. “Things like that had been happening for years."

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