ok, that is a cool guide.
Dimok
joined 1 year ago
Yeah man. Got a new puppy a month or so ago myself. He does NOT have the same issue :)
I wondered if you were still at this!
My hard disagree wasn't with the actual gov murder of innocents, it was with dragging that into the debate.I did reread how I worded it and even confused myself so I can see I didn't express it correctly. I guess a better way for me to have worded that is, if we're going to wax apathetic about government murder of innocents, fix that problem separately. It has nothing to do with cases where there is obvious guilt.
It has nothing to do with the suffering.. It is the most economical and straightforward way to deal with the punishment. If I had personal ties to it, I would probably want them to be alive and suffer Clockwork Orange style...
"It’s never the answer because we can never be 100% correct." The only argument I partially concede to. We as humans abuse systems to achieve our own goals, and 'truths' are all a matter of perspective. "And the government putting innocent people to death is horrific." Hard disagree. They do it all the damn time and at least it would be under the guise of justice in this case.
"It’s also more expensive so the ONLY reason to put people to death is to satisfy bloodthirsty vengeance." You seem pretty biased here. Any time someone tries to debate a point with the words 'only' or similar but then base it off perspective, is a flawed debate.
That sounds like a system issue and a cause of groups attempting to make the death penalty less attractive. Once there is irrefutable proof that a horrific crime such as this has been committed, there is no argument thus far that has convinced me death isn't the most logical punishment. I've heard them all, for..a long time. The only thing that keeps me from the 100% point is that, like I said, humans have a history of abusing it when it comes to minority's or the 'irrefutable proof' part.
Murder and justice are two different types of killings, in my opinion.
It would be scary to think that it wasn't...
Uhh, internal maybe? Trying to figure out what this old perv is tryin to look up, heheh.
Anyone else notice how happy everyone looks? Crazy how your happiness goes through the worth when you're not trying to control what everyone else does...