Blakerboy777

@TheShadowKnows

@EnglishMobster @KairuByte

I appreciate that you're attempting to put this in formal logical terms, but I think you're a little out of your depth. Your interlocutor was simply asserting that you are discounting the validity of systemic critique. He didn't imply that you had any position whatsoever on guns. He said your argument, if applied elsewhere, would lead to absurd results.

A strawman would be saying that you denied criticizing systems is ever valuable, and it's all down to personal responsibility. That's somewhat similar to what you said, but by reframing it as an absolute rule, it would be much easier to counter.

You're somewhat struggling to formulate the syllogisms here. I'll present the interlocutor's argument more precisely.

P1. If an argument works just as well to justify doing nothing to address systemic causes of gun violence, it is a poor argument.

P2. Your argument works just as well to justify...

C. Your argument is a poor argument.

Here would be your original syllogism.

P1. A system of rules that prioritizes freedom should not be blamed for actions of people who purposely abuse that freedom.

P2. The person who responded this way to downvote was misusing free access to downvote information.

C. Kbin's system that prioritizes freedom is blameless for a user responding to downvotes.

And here's how we would apply that to gun violence

P1. A system of rules that prioritizes freedom should not be blamed for actions of people who purposely abuse that freedom.

P2. A person who commits gun violence is misusing that freedom.

C. The USA’s laws that priotize freedom is blameless for gun violence.

@TheShadowKnows

@EnglishMobster @KairuByte an analogy isn't a strawman. He didn't say you were trivializing gun violence. He said the defense you used was faulty because it could just as readily be deployed to something more clearly harmful. It doesn't even prove the thing you are defending is bad, it just demonstrates that your argument defending it is a bad one.

@EnglishMobster every day on there's a main character on the internet, and you never want to be it. @Deliverator, how about instead of this getting totally blown out of proportion, you ease up and unban the guy, as well as make it a personal policy not to ban people from every magazine you own over a petty grievance. Going nuclear like that should be reserved for something extreme like CSAM, not just doing something that irritates you.

I've heard that if you tried to edit a comment in a community that had already gone private, that it could prevent you from editing it. Are you sure you were able to edit and delete the comments you're seeing? Normally if you delete your account without editing/deleting, the comment stays up and it just changes the username to deleted. I used Power Delete Suite on Sunday and don't see any of my comments have been restored, but most subreddits hadn't gone dark yet on the 11th.

I'll second this. I really like it. Apple just added the privacy feature of FaceID locking incognito tabs that Edge has had for a long time.